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Re: Organic Maps

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Post by int_19h »

physicalecon wrote: post #229
int_19h wrote: post #181

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I think it's fair for people to be surprised when their donations to the project are used for personal expenses when that is not clearly spelled out. There's nothing wrong with crowdfunding what is effectively a salary for a F/OSS project, but it needs to be explicit when soliciting donations.

The people that develop the project have needs like anyone else. That includes vacations.

And they are welcome to crowdfund for them. But they need to be explicit about what exactly the money is funding.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by gedankenstuecke »

u8080 wrote: post #353
gedankenstuecke wrote: post #345

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when opening the page for a place, the bottom for me regularly displays the "donation" ask which in good big tech fashion gives you the "ask again later" option.

Is that on iOS? Never saw such thing on android

nope, that's on Android, installed via Accrescent

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by xigoi »

z3ugma wrote: post #193
Yacoby wrote: post #3

There is also CoMaps ( https://www.comaps.app/ ) which is a fork of Organic Maps, after concern over the governance of Organic Maps https://itsfoss.com/news/organic-maps-fork-comaps/

Just downloaded CoMaps. Why does it start with a zoomed out view of the entire world, especially given that I gave it location services and it shows my current location (in North America). The very first UX experience this app gives is "I am primarily for people interested in maps and geography" Contrast this with Apple Maps - when you open it, there are 4 big tap controls for actions like "Home" "Work", a search bar…

> if granted, immediately start downloading their local tileset in the background

Nope. I do not want any app to start downloading hundreds of megabytes without my permission.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by physicalecon »

int_19h wrote: post #371
physicalecon wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people that develop the project have needs like anyone else. That includes vacations.

And they are welcome to crowdfund for them. But they need to be explicit about what exactly the money is funding.

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Re: Organic Maps

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Post by ihatehn »

maelito wrote: post #354
CircuitSeuss wrote: post #233

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Cool; but this is one of those instances where I wish the wonderful and benevolent FOSS developers of the world would consolidate efforts behind existing projects to make fewer better things instead of many never-finished forks. Especially since there is not yet a single open source map ui that is polished enough to compete with enterprise maps.

We at cartes.app have discussed with some people Comaps. We've made links from cartes.app to Comaps, e.g. for navigation, a feature that we don't have. We've not seen anything from their side. We don't really understand why they wouldn't want a proper Web version. It's even worse in the non-open source world : Kagi's maps are bad. Qwant dropped their cool map project, too expensive. Ecosia has none, redirects to Goog…

Hi! How have you tried to reach us? We have an open task to consider using something like cartes.app as a web "version" of CoMaps. https://codeberg.org/comaps/url-processor/issues/16

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by jraph »

dwa3592 wrote: post #357
jraph wrote: post #269

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> are you sure this is true? I'm sure I don't trust them. > I am not sure if you looked at the repo I linked I did skim it to get a grasp of your approach. But I'm answering statements made here too. I think your project is worth pursuing. I'm genuinely curious what you come up with. This is actually why I spent quite some time writing my comments: I hope they helped you in some way. I do believe your project could u…

>>the fact you didn't know about the existing private open source offline mapping solution also rang an alarm in me why? that's a bit of an overreaction from your alarm bells honestly. i didn't know about organic maps because i never looked up for this solution and never came across this specific app in my readings. what i am working on (and want to figure out) has less to do with commercial angle of privacy (which o…

>> the fact you didn't know about the existing private open source offline mapping solution also rang an alarm in me

> why? that's a bit of an overreaction from your alarm bells honestly.

Maybe. Let me explain myself. In a former life, I worked in academia and you kinda triggered my research mode (which is, believe it or not, quite positive for you). There, your work is easily more solid and convincing if you reaserched a bit the state of the art. By working on an alternative to GPS navigation, in such a setting, I would expect you to know the field well.

Now, I understand that you didn't particularly look into apps pretty much focused on GPS positioning since they are not supposed to do what you want, and I'm aware that you aren't doing academic research nor pretending to.

> let me add it today haha. thank you.

No pressure, I'll try to think of coming back to check once in a while. Thank you as well.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by maelito »

ihatehn wrote: post #375
maelito wrote: post #354

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We at cartes.app have discussed with some people Comaps. We've made links from cartes.app to Comaps, e.g. for navigation, a feature that we don't have. We've not seen anything from their side. We don't really understand why they wouldn't want a proper Web version. It's even worse in the non-open source world : Kagi's maps are bad. Qwant dropped their cool map project, too expensive. Ecosia has none, redirects to Goog…

Hi! How have you tried to reach us? We have an open task to consider using something like cartes.app as a web "version" of CoMaps. https://codeberg.org/comaps/url-processor/issues/16

Hi ! Yes, was freezed by gedankenstuecke's comment. But yes you're right, I'll write an update.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by MikeDods »

nekusar wrote: post #130
ryukoposting wrote: post #109

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I'll preface this by saying I can't speak for India. I live in the US. Use your own discretion to decide what here might apply to you. I've been using Organic Maps for almost 3 years. I lived in Chicago during this time, as well as some smaller American cities. I go back and forth between Organic Maps and GMaps depending on the situation. I've found that Organic Maps' lack of traffic data isn't a big deal for me. It…

I prefer Google Maps cause they'll tell you where pigs camp out. Saved me a lot of speeding tickets on the interstate.

a cool hack i found to avoid tickets is to make sure to drive at the speed limit, saved me many times!

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by nobody42 »

kqr wrote: post #293
y04nn wrote: post #292

The quality of the maps is getting better, much more useful and detailed than Google Maps. I find it much easier to locate myself on Organic Maps than Google Maps. For example parks are only a green blob on Google Maps, while benches, walking paths, drinking water points, toilets and other landmarks and buildings are visible on Organic Maps. I find that adding transit lines or cycling routes as an overlay is also a g…

I often reference this comparison in this context: https://i.xkqr.org/gmapsvsosm.png

"There's no life where data broker isn't needed"

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by loscati »

idoubtit wrote: post #306
VorpalWay wrote: post #200

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I have used OsmAnd+ for well over 15 years by now, which also uses OSM data, just like these. And I have used JOSM on my PC to fix the OSM data myself. Does Organic maps / CoMaps offer anything OsmAnd+ doesn't for someone who uses it for car navigation (especially on back roads in the wilderness) as well as hiking? (All in the Nordic countries.) I also record tracks with it.

I also use OsmAnd~ for hiking, and even more for cycling. I tried CoMaps after a friend recommended it. In my experience, OsmAnd is much more powerful, and if you can tolerate its complexity and battery-drain, it's worth it. - CoMaps is much simpler, but lacks features. OsmAnd has (too many) features and requires heavy configuration, e.g. to disable some features I never use and optimize battery life. - Loading a tra…

> Notably, displaying markers on "drinking water" POI

In CoMaps, they are shown under: search > categories > water (then you can press "show on map"). Not straightforward, but it is there. Fairly enough, don't know if "water" includes drinkable ones only.

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