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Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by notabotiswear »

netdur wrote: post #19
culi wrote: post #15

It's practically a project of the Egyptian military who will mostly own the land. They will grow cash crops for export to gain a source of income. This will also drain the ancient and non-renewable Nubian Sandstone Aquifer. This is water that has been trapped for thousands of years. It is the world's largest fossil water system and is of immense scientific value. Not to mention the historic Nile Delta wetlands that w…

Here’s the source of the problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Ethiopian_Renaissance_Da...

Uh, it isn't. GERD's operation's negative effect on the Nile's yield are minimal, and they could be even positive with coordinated, basin-wide, water management, but that's something Egypt has been continusouly against. They've never really looked at the other nine/ten as equalls...

The problems are that the Nile is a modest River and that Egypt has a population problem in a resources-strapped region, coupled with extremely unsustainable government policies (a topic in itself is an amalgum of compounding issues).

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by jedmeyers »

culi wrote: post #78
jedmeyers wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As of 2026 Q2, the U.S. disbursed over $116 billion in aid to Ukraine and is obligated for a total of $177b. Yes the rest is being disbursed despite Trump's political antics Where are you getting those numbers from?

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/ Here's the Congressional Budget Justification for FY-2026 if you wanna dig in https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/FY-2026-Sta... Total Appropriated: $195.03 billion Total Obligated: $177.76 billion Total Disbursed: $116.02 billion

This does not look to be “military” spending on Ukraine, it’s all spending.

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by lazide »

kristjansson wrote: post #71
selimthegrim wrote: post #69

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Beirut would like a word about "any old warehouse"

That, at least, needed only to keep out heat and combustion, and could have been extinguished with water had there been enough, and in time. Instead, consider the absolute PITA that is an EV fire, but worse, and floating in an ocean of the only thing that could make it worse.

Hey, if it explodes then no more worries about trying to put it out?

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by worik »

krior wrote: post #46
rayiner wrote: post #40

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That's not how it works. Egypt is not a closed country. International organizations can get in and get numbers. It's also worth keeping in mind that many European countries, and every non-European country that's now developed, went through a phase of authoritarianism or one-party rule during which the organs of state developed. Germany's and Italy's modern democratic governments date to the end of WWII, and Spain and…

Which european dictatorship left their country better off?

> Which european dictatorship left their country better off?

If monarchs count as dictators, and monarchic states as dictatorship, then almost all economic progress in Europe upto the 1840s

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by MisterMower »

culi wrote: post #15

It's practically a project of the Egyptian military who will mostly own the land. They will grow cash crops for export to gain a source of income. This will also drain the ancient and non-renewable Nubian Sandstone Aquifer. This is water that has been trapped for thousands of years. It is the world's largest fossil water system and is of immense scientific value. Not to mention the historic Nile Delta wetlands that w…

I’m not sure why the military running it makes this project inherently bad.

You can always point to some geological or ecological reason why a resource shouldn’t be developed. Here in western Kansas there is some endangered chicken grouse that is constantly used to prevent wind turbines from being constructed. It’s just an excuse to block development, as is the concern you’re raising.

I doubt the people who need water to survive give a damn about CO2 emissions. There will be environmental damage, for sure. It will be worth it to these people who will live better lives because of it. Ultimately, Egyptian leadership gets to make that call, not you or I.

If you really care about the environment, you should support these kinds of projects that will raise incomes to the level where Egyptians can afford to care about environmental conservation.

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by cute_boi »

dyauspitr wrote: post #39
a34729t wrote: post #13

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To be fair, Egypt and Mexico made major reforms to their water usage in the past and succeeded. Compared to India, which failed abjectly.

India relies on groundwater and its strategy has been to use the monsoons to replenish the groundwater under the Jal Shakti Abhyan. The monsoons come like clockwork so it’s a solid strategy.

It is clearly not working. Groundwater in India is being drained faster than it is being replenished. Wells have gone so deep that people are now worried about heavy metals like arsenic.

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by cute_boi »

dyauspitr wrote: post #41
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #17

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Do these Indian companies implement things in India?

Yes, you may have to update your knowledge on the insane infrastructure boom going on in India right now.

And, they aren't doing in sustainable way, worst than China.

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by cute_boi »

betaby wrote: post #75
nradov wrote: post #42

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That's true for now, although their rate of population growth appears to have peaked several years ago and like most other countries the birth rate has since declined sharply. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Egypt

People born yesterday are alive today and will be alive in the next ~70 years mostly.

Given this unsustainable population growth, I wonder how serious the refugee issue will become for Europe and the Americas over the next 30 to 40 years.

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by hollerith »

krior wrote: post #46
rayiner wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how it works. Egypt is not a closed country. International organizations can get in and get numbers. It's also worth keeping in mind that many European countries, and every non-European country that's now developed, went through a phase of authoritarianism or one-party rule during which the organs of state developed. Germany's and Italy's modern democratic governments date to the end of WWII, and Spain and…

Which european dictatorship left their country better off?

The UK for one. By the time it became a democracy, it was already stable, peaceful and the wealthiest country per capita that had ever existed.

Re: Egypt Is Building a New Nile

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Post by peyton »

hollerith wrote: post #89
krior wrote: post #46

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Which european dictatorship left their country better off?

The UK for one. By the time it became a democracy, it was already stable, peaceful and the wealthiest country per capita that had ever existed.

It was a narrow miss. There was a time the crown wanted everyone farming cotton, but entrepreneurs pitched arbitrage instead.
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