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How little exercise can you get away with?

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Re: How little exercise can you get away with?

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"but weight training might not actually be a good fit to most people. I" People will eventually realize it causes cancer. Weight training literally generates inflammation.

> People will eventually realize it causes cancer. Weight training literally generates inflation. Inflation? I don't think this comment could have better intentionally illustrated how ill-informed it is if you tried.

Lol. Sorry typo. Fixed.

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Median age of 61… 4.4 minutes of “vigorous” activity. Hard to interpret this as anything else that if you remain being able to be somehow active in your later years you will be better off. I find all of the studies of “how little exercise” is needed sad. Instead we should be focusing on how to restructure modern lifestyle to allow everybody to achieve the minimum of cardiovascular and strength exercises.

It's not hard to restructure it at all. 1. Ban overworking. Make it a federal offense. Actually jail CEOs if their employees work >50 hours a week 2. These exercise tracking apps should pay people for the exercise they do. The money will come from health insurance. They pay $1 per mile you run or hike, they save $10 on your future hospitalization. 3. City sponsored exercise events and sports competitions open to ever…

Your health insurance or employer may already offer a similar program. Mine does. I get up to $500 added to my HSA every year if I hit step count goals on their app.

That said, looking around my office, I don't think it's very effective. It's hard to get people to exercise and a few hundred bucks doesn't change that.

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What needs to be done is relatively simple. Convincing society to fix what's broken is the hard part. We need to restructure cities away from being driving focused.

A lot of Americans genuinely like their cars and low-density single family neighborhoods. This would also be a massive and expensive undertaking that would require rebuilding the majority of city infrastructure.

It would be cheaper than continuing down the current path. Like I said, the answer is obvious and conceptually simple. Getting people to accept the truth is the hard part.

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Lift weights, but like 30-60 minutes 3x a week is plenty. You definitely don't have to do it multiple times a day if that would be inconvenient.

Yeah I agree, but considering this is HN, there's a large audience of people who want a serious answer despite it being a somewhat silly question. I already know these comments will be absolutely polluted with conjecture that isn't practical. If someone works from home and doesn't have kids and hates going outside, this is it. If you can at least get into the habit of lifting weights, you're doing better than most. I…

People not liking cardio was always a weird one to me. Kids love to run around. They naturally do it, no one has to prompt them. Not sure what happens to people as they grow up that makes them lose this joy.

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How about you instead of trying to “get away with” as little exercise as possible you found a way to move your body that you genuinely enjoy? One should not optimise away sleep, nutrition and exercise. Yes we live in a ridiculous fitness and gym boom, but weight training might not actually be a good fit to most people. I love having to psych myself to lift big amounts of steel, I’m ok with bit of pain etc. - mostly p…

Have you ever heard of the motivational technique where, instead of telling themselves "I'm going for a run", people will say "I'm going to put my shoes on and see how I feel, no commitment and no pressure", and they end up nearly always going for a run anyway plus they do it more often and have more fun?

Also, have you read Dynomight's blog post[0] about how the biggest barrier to starting exercise isn't improving too slowly, it's overtraining and giving up?

This article could be seen as a way to do the minimum exercise possible. I think a better reading is that all exercise is good, you can spend five minutes on the exercise bike or do a few leg raises and push-ups, no pressure, it's still good for you, and maybe tomorrow you'll go for a run or make it to the gym.

[0] https://dynomight.net/2021/01/25/how-to-run-without-all-the-...

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I am one of “these people.” I’m pointing out something to the gp comment that people don’t consider when they make generalizing, moralizing comments like this.

But if the comment wasn't considering you, then they weren't telling you to exercise. Nobody is telling someone who physically can't run to run. There is no reason to interpret it this way.

You’re putting far too much into the response than is there. The point being responded to was “why optimize something like exercise?” a reason was given. It’s not as uncommon as you seem to be making it out to be.

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I’ll tell you an easy way to get away with absolutely no exercise: design your life in such a way that moving around is a normal part of it.

Live in a "fifteen minute city." Work someplace that’s either a thirty minute walk or thirty minute bike ride from home. Carry your groceries.

If you get your minimal daily requirement of exercise by just living your normal life, any additional exercise you do is bonus, icing on your cake.

Re: How little exercise can you get away with?

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How about you instead of trying to “get away with” as little exercise as possible you found a way to move your body that you genuinely enjoy? One should not optimise away sleep, nutrition and exercise. Yes we live in a ridiculous fitness and gym boom, but weight training might not actually be a good fit to most people. I love having to psych myself to lift big amounts of steel, I’m ok with bit of pain etc. - mostly p…

I have a deep, visceral revulsion to physical effort in all its forms, with three exceptions: riding a bicycle, swimming and climbing things.

Small doses of psychedelics invert this, and I find myself running and doing push-ups and enjoying it. I have no idea how that works.

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Restructuring the modern lifestyle, allowing people more free time to focus on their health, is unprofitable. Whereas minimizing the amount of free time people spend on their health, allowing people more time to labor or consume, is profitable.

100% agree. The real battle isn't the actual exercise. It's initiating it in the face of endless distractions.

Once you make it a habit like brushing your teeth the distractions cease to be an obstacle.

Re: How little exercise can you get away with?

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I’ll tell you an easy way to get away with absolutely no exercise: design your life in such a way that moving around is a normal part of it. Live in a "fifteen minute city." Work someplace that’s either a thirty minute walk or thirty minute bike ride from home. Carry your groceries. If you get your minimal daily requirement of exercise by just living your normal life, any additional exercise you do is bonus, icing on…

That's a reasonable start for some people but it lacks the resistance training necessary to prevent sarcopenia later in life. Some people get that as part of their job but most of us need to do at least some weight training. Carrying groceries isn't nearly enough.
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