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Using precision editing to study human embryo development shows master gene

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Re: Using precision editing to study human embryo development shows master gene

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US it's legal-sorta but the NIH can't fund it and the FDA is not allowed to approve treatments based on it. So someone could do it in a research setting but there's not a pathway to market in the US (in practice people will do the first ones in a friendly legal climate like Peru).

> In the US it's legal-sorta but the NIH can't fund it and the FDA is not allowed to approve treatments based on it What references are you following? Haven't heard this before.

> the FDA is not allowed to approve treatments based on it

Unless you live in the Whitehouse.

Re: Using precision editing to study human embryo development shows master gene

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Testing on early stage embryos is a thing yes. They have no brain, no heartbeat, feel no pain. Yes, they could potentially develop into a human being, but I wouldn't call it a live human yet. I understand your repulsion, but to other people it's no different than testing on sperm, eggs or other human tissues. And as the other guy said, these were discarded embryos from IVF, they would never become humans.

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Even in real pregnancies, it's estimated that as many as three quarters of all fertilized eggs fail to implant in the uterus. If one was of the opinion that life begins at conception, one should certainly be aware of that silent holocaust that has and always will eclipse all others for all of human existence.

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Testing on early stage embryos is a thing yes. They have no brain, no heartbeat, feel no pain. Yes, they could potentially develop into a human being, but I wouldn't call it a live human yet. I understand your repulsion, but to other people it's no different than testing on sperm, eggs or other human tissues. And as the other guy said, these were discarded embryos from IVF, they would never become humans.

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Re: Using precision editing to study human embryo development shows master gene

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Testing on early stage embryos is a thing yes. They have no brain, no heartbeat, feel no pain. Yes, they could potentially develop into a human being, but I wouldn't call it a live human yet. I understand your repulsion, but to other people it's no different than testing on sperm, eggs or other human tissues. And as the other guy said, these were discarded embryos from IVF, they would never become humans.

They’re a human, but not a person.

Human is a fact of DNA — of which embryos are unmistakably humans. But we don’t ascribe rights based on humanity, but on personhood, which is why embryos have virtually none.

You come across as dishonest and put people off from your perspective when you won’t admit basic facts — eg, this is experimenting on humans.

I think perhaps your aversion to basic facts is that you don’t feel comfortable being honest:

You support experimenting on living humans.

Re: Using precision editing to study human embryo development shows master gene

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You're in for a real treat when you find out how we got organ transplantation.

How so?

A quick search suggests that we tried it a bunch on animals, failed on humans, and of the first three human transplants, you had an adult (20s), toddler (2yr), and adult (50s). All of them were due to medical necessity, as it was a high risk procedure.

Is there something you imagine the poster would be shocked by in that history?

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