>> The project is under heavy active development
Is a pretty oof sentence for a project with one contributor and no users. Just reeks of llm barf with no oversight.
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Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Without ai assistance" - ok, but what about with ai assistance?
It's possible, but we're at the moment when most of us can ask Fable to implement a custom compiler to a custom target for our favorite language, and even use it as a part of custom solution. Why do I need someone else's implementation? Where's the magic in this project? What's the secret sauce?
>Where's the magic in this project? What's the secret sauce?
Someone else paying for the tokens.
Also someone seeing it through (should that come). Obviously we're not "at the moment when most of us can ask Fable to implement a custom compiler to a custom target for our favorite language, and even use it as a part of custom solution", without thousands to spare and lots of time to shape the solution.
Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter
#33What happens if you call exec/eval? Are they just not available?
It uses JIT
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's possible, but we're at the moment when most of us can ask Fable to implement a custom compiler to a custom target for our favorite language, and even use it as a part of custom solution. Why do I need someone else's implementation? Where's the magic in this project? What's the secret sauce?
> Where's the magic in this project? What's the secret sauce? Someone else paying for the tokens. Also someone seeing it through (should that come). Obviously we're not "at the moment when most of us can ask Fable to implement a custom compiler to a custom target for our favorite language, and even use it as a part of custom solution", without thousands to spare and lots of time to shape the solution.
It's like we invented a worse github.
Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
of course it is vibed. it doesn't matter as long as it works.
That's the neat part, when it's vibed it works, until it doesn't and then it's really hard to make it work again.
>when it's vibed it works, until it doesn't and then it's really hard to make it work again
Is it?
People have solved AI bugs with AI. If some vibe project eventually hits some bug and stops working, what exactly stops using AI to fix it? Is the idea that bugs will go beyond the limits of AI capability?
If you meant to say that when an AI vibe coded project beyond some complexity it's difficult for a human coder to manually go through all the code they didn't write, understand it, and find the issue, sure.
Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Where's the magic in this project? What's the secret sauce? Someone else paying for the tokens. Also someone seeing it through (should that come). Obviously we're not "at the moment when most of us can ask Fable to implement a custom compiler to a custom target for our favorite language, and even use it as a part of custom solution", without thousands to spare and lots of time to shape the solution.
It's like we invented a worse github.
Gimphub.
Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter
#38Can it run Numpy and Torch?
pickle files are usually the limiter here. I would be surprised if it can handle pickle files since it relies so much on runtime LUTs of the objects and arbitrary object definitions. This usually doesn't work in other use cases such as swig or cython either IIRC.
For NumPy/Pytorch, the C API is much bigger issue than pickle. I have not looked at the architecture of this, but given it uses its own IR + replaces ref counting w/ a GC, I am assuming it does not have C API compatibility.
Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter
#39>> The project is under heavy active development Is a pretty oof sentence for a project with one contributor and no users. Just reeks of llm barf with no oversight.
I am a fan of AI assistance, but “ratchet” is pretty much a Claude giveaway. The kids, now in their twenties because the reference is dated, might make a joke here.
Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter
#40Don't we have Nuitka for this?
It's not the same, that one works.