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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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> That's all just prompting And telling someone not to repeat a mistake is… ?

Are you really making the case that teaching a person how to work is equivalent to prompting an AI?

Yes. Tell me why it’s different without using circular reasoning?

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Every single one of those sentences is highly dubious. Cyber-defenders would be pretty jazzed about having easier access to Mythos-class models. Cyber-defense is easier with better tools.

Cyber defenders already have access to Mythos class models at most companies with the biggest user facing products and services. They are using them extensively (including on OSS deps) Handing every skiddie and nation state and APT and hacker group access to Mythos does not help cyber defenders Even if you don't think Mythos is a big deal: At a certain point models become smart enough as to be dangerous, and you don'…

Let's assume for the sake of argument that Anthropic has a monopoly over significantly superior models. They will never be a perfect gatekeeper. The number of black hat hackers with access they shouldn't have will be highly correlated with the total number with access, so to be "conservative" Anthropic would deny access to many white hat hackers who should have access (like my company, which runs cloud infra for hundreds of other companies but is nonetheless too small to be considered). It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the bunch, and once a black hatter has access, all the white hatters without would be exposed. At that point, it would be better for everyone to have access.

Luckily, Anthropic has no such monopoly, so the point is sorta moot

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Check out LibRedirect or Predirect (MV3), it automatically redirects youtube, X, etc links to privacy-respecting frontends. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44344246 107 comments, 1 year ago.

The LibRedirect link in that post is 404

https://github.com/libredirect/browser_extension

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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> single line addition to prompt to use subagents proactively. This misses an important detail. In Claude Code [1], ultracode suggests the agent create a JavaScript code to deterministically orchestrate sub agents. This is different from just having the main agent launch sub agents and (non-deterministically) manage them. The resulting workflow is called “dynamic” because CC creates this orchestration script dynamica…

Can you explain what you find useful about ultracode? I've become wary of agent swarms since the early days and now just prefer to have a single agent spin for hours at time. Parallelism never got me anywhere worthwhile.

I'll sometimes use agent swarms for triaging quickly through a number of possible issues. For example, a single request for a code review to uncover all possible issues, followed by an agent swarm to dig deep into each issue to confirm or mark false positive.

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post #348

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> single line addition to prompt to use subagents proactively. This misses an important detail. In Claude Code [1], ultracode suggests the agent create a JavaScript code to deterministically orchestrate sub agents. This is different from just having the main agent launch sub agents and (non-deterministically) manage them. The resulting workflow is called “dynamic” because CC creates this orchestration script dynamica…

Can you explain what you find useful about ultracode? I've become wary of agent swarms since the early days and now just prefer to have a single agent spin for hours at time. Parallelism never got me anywhere worthwhile.

I too used to be a skeptic of the whole "agent-swarms" hype. But I do find some patterns useful with ultracode:

- parallelism: "if it makes sense, use ultracode to do this thoroughly" Claude decides if this is the type of task that can benefit from a dynamic workflow. For example where there is a large number of similar independent sub-tasks, it can choose to set up a dynamic workflow, and it even sets up verifiers/tests etc to validate its work. In some cases it pushes back and decides not to set up a dynamic workflow and instead works on the task directly.

- verification loops: "Set up a dynamic workflow with adversarial checkers, and iterate until they are all green, up to some sensible limit". Similarly, I can include code-simplification steps and documentation-update steps.

These patterns help me leave it unattended for longer periods of time and return to a reasonable assurance of correct code.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Are you really making the case that teaching a person how to work is equivalent to prompting an AI?

Yes. Tell me why it’s different without using circular reasoning?

They're different mechanisms.

Teaching modifies the learner. Prompting doesn't modify the model. It provides additional context that influences a single inference. A person who has learned something can apply it years later without being reminded. An LLM generally cannot unless the knowledge is incorporated into the model itself or provided again.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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post #348

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> single line addition to prompt to use subagents proactively. This misses an important detail. In Claude Code [1], ultracode suggests the agent create a JavaScript code to deterministically orchestrate sub agents. This is different from just having the main agent launch sub agents and (non-deterministically) manage them. The resulting workflow is called “dynamic” because CC creates this orchestration script dynamica…

Can you explain what you find useful about ultracode? I've become wary of agent swarms since the early days and now just prefer to have a single agent spin for hours at time. Parallelism never got me anywhere worthwhile.

I feel like its only useful if the work you are doing doesn't have correctness as a high priority. If your work is okay with something only mostly being correct and it can just be slopped together over time then yes throw 500 agents at it. But otherwise you can't really review all that work as a single human and will quickly run out of capacity

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oh here we go again saying everything in china is done by the state. it's not a democracy but they're not the soviet union either. if that were true, why don't they have just one model initiative instead of several?

Oh yeah that's a good point. In that case, this Chinese hedge fund is choosing to sink billions of dollars in R&D alongside vast opportunity cost in order to create models and release them for free because umm... they're just that nice! No wonder you're confused about DeepSeek when you have a fairly obvious explanation provided to you, and your response is "it's unrealistic to think the Chinese Communist Party is beh…

so you can't believe a private enterprise in a non democratic country can be capitalist. surely there must be state involvement because they aren't democratic and it's open weights which is definetely not just a marketing tactic because you definetely can run it on a desktop. companies like alibaba have 1 model initiative spread across several fields. so basically China for some unexplainable reason has duplicate models. (it's because they have a capitalist economy, even though the government is not democratic)

to you, it's plainly obvious that a non american, non-european company engaging in open source and releasing research means they are state owned and seek to destroy the US when this line of thinking is exactly the result of the red scare.

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But there must be a ton of generic questions that people ask. Stuff like "What's the capital of country X?" - it's probably at least 10% of queries. Memories, custom instructions etc would invalidate them, but if you can return the answers basically free it's probably worth it.

How is that cheaper? You now need to have a database of millions of possibly gigabyte sized rows. Also, transformers have quadratic complexity, so short queries cost practically nothing. The only optimization that makes sense is per user prefix caching, because you are often sending the same system prompt over and over again or are continuing a conversation.

Why would the rows be gigabyte size? You’d just save the text.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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As of writing, https://openrouter.ai/rankings shows only Opus, Sonnet, and GPT 5.5 in the top twenty by usage (Opus and Sonnet both have two slots on the 4.7/4.8 and 4.5/5 splits respectively, read that how you will). I don't know how much business OpenRouter does in Europe (they have some GDPR text in some settings pages I think) but it's zero in China. You might also consider the countless companies that do nothing…

Misleading first sentence, as most use OpenAI and Anthropic directly via their own LLM not through OpenRouter. But you're right that lots of companies use open weight and Chinese models, not sure how the parent got to their conclusion.

because in the us you get plenty of people who refuse to buy non western products solely because they are not western. like chinese cars which were banned.
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