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Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Yes. I am. Government is democratically elected by the people, therefore, they are the ones that can make decisions for the people.

Why healthcare specifically, and where so you draw the line? Are you okay with democratically elected officials making any decision for the people as they see fit?

Don’t they do that when they make laws?

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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My uncle's house is under the landing path for Midway Airport. His whole house shakes when a plane comes by. From his front yard you can easily read the numbers on the plane's body. Parts of the fence surrounding the airport is across the street from a neighborhood. You can sit and watch planes landing not too far above your head. I'm not surprised a consumer grade firework was able to hit one of those planes.

I am a bit surprised someone with a house placed like your uncle would feel it’s ok to light up fireworks under an airport approach path.

I am a bit surprised they let people be there. All that security and anyone can buy a gun and shoot down planes? :D :D :D :D

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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> Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. Native born German. Calling BS on that crap. I recommend reading up on "freedom from" vs. "freedom to". Explains quite a lot of differences between the European tradition of ensuring people are "free from" an potentially oppressive state vs. the US tradition of "freedom to". In each "freedom of speech" index I know, Germany fares better than the US, or Bri…

In Germany you will get arrested if you publicly talk about Gaza and Israel

German here. The law as written actually permits most of the speech: As long as you avoid a number of banned phrases and don't voice explicit support for groups classified as terrorist organizations, your speech is protected - in theory.

In practice, wondrous things may start to happen already long before you reach that threshold, such as police forgetting their own laws, your venue, backup venue and second backup venue suddenly all deciding they cannot host you, politicians trying to fire you - or you suddenly realizing that you're unable to access any kind of bank account or credit card because the EU put you on a sanctions list (behind closed doors, without telling you, with no option to appeal).

But none of that has to do with overregulation - on the contrary, those measures are often in violation of the law and courts have frequently decided in favor of pro-palestinian activists and axed them.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Where I live, it's already illegal to shoot fireworks in the city limits, people still do that. Banning sales and importation is the next logical step.

According to what logic?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/logic this one.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

#385

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Nope, completely with you on this. The logical conclusion of banning everything dangerous is everything in existence being banned. There are many things people do that I think are dumb or dangerous but that doesn't mean I think they should be banned from doing them.

Not true. I support anyone doing anything that is harmful to themselves. I don't support doing things that are harmful to others.

By the nature of even existing you do things every single day that others would consider harmful to them. This isn't a personal attack fyi.

edit: I don't believe it's ridiculous or pedantic, but you're certainly welcome to your opinion.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Not true. I support anyone doing anything that is harmful to themselves. I don't support doing things that are harmful to others.

By the nature of even existing you do things every single day that others would consider harmful to them. This isn't a personal attack fyi. edit: I don't believe it's ridiculous or pedantic, but you're certainly welcome to your opinion.

Don't be ridiculous. There is very little value in such pedantry.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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I grew up in southern CA, in a dry pine forest. I can assure you the children I knew traded and set off fireworks. We were all envious of the families who brought them back from Mexico — they had the best stuff. I guess rules-followers assumed we were all doing as they did.

It’s all fun and games until you burn down a few thousand houses.

Not entirely sure, but this fire aligns with July 4, and has one death:

https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/wildfire/update-numerous-stru...

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Am I the only one who thinks the risks are worth the reward? People are celebrating, kids are having fun. Yes a few people blow their hands off, but are we going to remove everything, one by one, in the name of safety?

Fireworks affects others: fire danger, noise, lack of post-celebration cleanup. I've seen trash and unlit fireworks left in school yards that had kids coming in for summer school.

If people were more respectful with fireworks, this wouldn't be a polarizing opinion. Yet, here we are.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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I recently moved to the St. Louis area for a software job at Boeing. I'm actually in a nice quiet neighborhood in St. Charles right under the flight path for planes landing at Lambert Field. The fireworks last night were insane. All around me folks were setting off commercial grade fireworks bursting hundreds of feet in the air. The house was shaking, my dogs were freaking out, one of them had a seizure. The air was…

-having lived in MO, yeah, pretty scary

-don't miss the hill restaurants

-maybe still stick around if you own a house such as to help prevent it being set ablaze that night inadvertently...

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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> Obviously how you use the thing is important. Is there a way to use large fireworks in a residential neighborhood that isn’t “light them on fire to cause an explosion”?

Large? When fireworks within the ATF limits for unlicensed individuals are used according to manufacturer instructions they explode on the ground or in the air in a way that does not endanger the surrounding structures. Of course you can't safely light them off in a narrow alley between three story buildings. Anyone doing that (or similarly foolish things) was behaving recklessly to begin with.

The comment was saying it should not be legal to cause “an explosion rattle your windows”, not just endangering the structure.
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