Live data from Hacker News

Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

techcrunch.com

41–50 of 72 posts

Re: Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

#41
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wrote the same thing twice, hehe. But the point gets across.

Artificial Artificial Artificial intelligence is when the chat bot is out of capacity, so a person in India is writing the response that gets returned by the LLM which gets pasted into Mechanical Turk.

"Artificial AI"

and

"Artificial Artificial intelligence"

are the same thing.

Come on. This site can do better.

Re: Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

#42
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were using LLMs in 2012?

Living, Low-income Minions?

This is my main argument as to why (people with) AI will not take over the world.

Cheap, disposable, on-demand intelligence has existed for millennia.

If anything, AI is more of an equalizer.

Re: Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

#43
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Artificial Artificial Artificial intelligence is when the chat bot is out of capacity, so a person in India is writing the response that gets returned by the LLM which gets pasted into Mechanical Turk.

"Artificial AI" and "Artificial Artificial intelligence" are the same thing. Come on. This site can do better.

yes, this site can do a lot better than nitpicking acronyms

Re: Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

#45
This has very little to do with “AI replacing jobs” and much much more to do with a bad product getting obsoleted by better ones.

Human labeling is a two sided marketplace and so as any marketplace startup knows, both sides need to be constantly nurtured otherwise the system can collapse as worsening quality leads to churn and a vicious cycle that empties out the platform.

In labeling, you need to understand the limitations of individual work and fatigue, keep your pipeline bursting with awesome and consistent work, and improve the platform to make customer experience great.

AMT has been totally languishing in all these respects. Pay is terrible, dishonesty rampant, etc. It was a bad product, no need to pedestalize it or turn it political

Re: Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

#46
post #20

> In a snake-eating-its-own-tail irony, a 2023 analysis found that between 33% and 46% of workers on the platform were using large language models to complete their tasks, I assume AI use by workers has risen to the point where it renders Mechanical Turk pointless.

This likely means those consuming the outputs of Mechanical Turk don't have a good way to measure the value (aka quality) of the outputs. If they did - then they shouldn't care whether it's a human or a LLM. And if it's a LLM - then the cost will roughly correlate to the MIN(cost of the LLM, cost of a human) to do the task.

The problem is bigger. Outside of coding, there is no real way to reinforce a model with pass/fail cycles until it stops hallucinating. This is why customer service uses will always have a problem. This compounds as you chain agents together.

It's like the speed of light - to get to that point, you need exponentially more energy, and you will never ever get there.

Re: Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

#49
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wrote the same thing twice, hehe. But the point gets across.

Artificial Artificial Artificial intelligence is when the chat bot is out of capacity, so a person in India is writing the response that gets returned by the LLM which gets pasted into Mechanical Turk.

[deleted]

Re: Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

#50
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Artificial Artificial Artificial intelligence is when the chat bot is out of capacity, so a person in India is writing the response that gets returned by the LLM which gets pasted into Mechanical Turk.

"Artificial AI" and "Artificial Artificial intelligence" are the same thing. Come on. This site can do better.

Are they? If one uses artificial in the sense of "fake" then a human pretending to be a machine AI would count as an artificial AI. The only scenario where this doesn't hold is if you are using "artificial" in the sense of "not created by nature".
Post reply on HN