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Will never happen in real life
Why not?
Public loss, private profits. That's why
Europe's new climate in seven charts
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#242Humanity has decided we can't be bothered with this climate thing. We are busy making money and can't be distracted. So welcome everyone! I'll be a hell of a ride.
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India and Pakistan are both reliant on the Indus River for their agriculture. The Indus has its source in glaciers in the Himalayas. As those glaciers disappear, the Indus will deliver less water, and deliver it much less reliably (melting ice and snow provides a nice steady flow, runoff less so). So: you have two nuclear powers who are both relying on the same diminishing resource to feed their people. Do you not se…
Yes, but that would be a regional, not global conflict. There are already tensions over it and plenty of other tensions between India and Pakistan. the comment I replied to claimed it would cause a "huge global conflict" - i.e. world war. Serious as a war between India and Pakistan would be I would not characterise it in the same way as, say, an all out war between the US and China.
You appear to be forgetting that both India and Pakistan possess nuclear weapons. A war between two nuclear powers has never happened before and the results would likely be calamitous, unleashing a huge global catastrophe and unquantifiable additional conflict as food, health and energy systems fail.
I am not just some random internet person making this up. A lot has been written about this subject by respected researchers:
- https://www2.acom.ucar.edu/news/waccm-model-simulates-global...
- https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2020/03/16/even-limited-in...
- https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529589-a-nuclear-war-b...
- https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/india-and-pakistan-i...
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#245to me, these heatwaves feel like the start of the end of human existence
Research past heat waves in Europe. Did your grand parents felt the same as you?
What kind of climate change denier are you?
Here: NASA SVS | NASA Climate Spiral 1880-Present https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/5190/
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There are several highly problematic areas, but they are local (very, very big, but local, not remotely close to covering the whole of human civilization).
I am curious how humanity is not affected as a whole by climate change. You already said these are massive geographic issues. Yet these different, large, geographic problems are of a size that doesn’t end up having even a remote effect on human civilization? How? Is there some geography which is not impacted at all? A geography where a massive portion of human civilization is situated?
You're shifting goalposts or misunderstanding the discussion. Up the comment chain, the conversation is specifically centered around "the end of humanity." As in, extinction.
You're driving at changes to how we live.
Changes to how we live, even large ones, does not equate to "the end of humanity."
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The cold war never heated up. Even if we stopped using fossil fuels tomorrow, it will take millennia for the climate to return to normal.
> it will take millennia for the climate to return to normal No. There is no such thing as "normal" climate. It's ever changing. We're just making the change a whole lot faster.
Replace 'normal' with 'optimal for humanity' then.,
I'm sure the lizards will love the new normal though.