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AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

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Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

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post #107

This is just a little under the price of NVidia's DGX Spark with CUDA or a Mac with 128GB and twice the memory bandwidth. The point of Strix Halo used to be that it was half the price of those way more capable machines. You'd be crazy to buy the AMD chip at this price. But the hardware market is generally crazy right now, so I'm sure this will sell as well, unfortunately.

Personally, I'm totally ok to have a competitor to Nvidia, regardless of whether they are under the price or not.

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#112

So... I dont want to ruin gaming more but why not get a gaming PC? Figured this out 15 years ago if its good for gaming, put some more RAM in and boom you have a workstation...

The shortcoming is the memory speed/bandwisth.

With a desktop your system memory is slow and your fast graphics memory is limited in size.

To me it seems like the best bang for your buck in the BYO desktop PC space is to get a board with dual PCIe slots then find some old generation 24GB GPUs like RTX 3090.

But you’re not getting access to more than 48GB of fast memory without something similar to this or a Mac Studio.

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#113
post #107

This is just a little under the price of NVidia's DGX Spark with CUDA or a Mac with 128GB and twice the memory bandwidth. The point of Strix Halo used to be that it was half the price of those way more capable machines. You'd be crazy to buy the AMD chip at this price. But the hardware market is generally crazy right now, so I'm sure this will sell as well, unfortunately.

where do you see "twice the memory bandwidth"?

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#115
post #36

Even a two-year-old Mac Studio outperforms this kit. A used unit with sufficient memory currently seems to offer the best price-to-performance ratio "The Apple Silicon Mac Studios outperform the AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 machines"

And how much can you buy a 128GB Mac Studio for now? Go look. I think you'll be shocked.

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#116

$4k is pretty darn spendy. I recently purchased a refurbished Corsair AI Workstation with almost the same hardware (same chip, same 128GB RAM, but only 1TB storage) for $2160. Pretty good deal! Codex and I wrote a Linux driver to report the power mode of the device: https://github.com/pettijohn/corsair-ai-workstation-performa...

Is that price still available?

I think I got lucky -- look for "revival" series on their web site. I happened to see it one time and pulled the trigger.

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#117
post #113
post #107

This is just a little under the price of NVidia's DGX Spark with CUDA or a Mac with 128GB and twice the memory bandwidth. The point of Strix Halo used to be that it was half the price of those way more capable machines. You'd be crazy to buy the AMD chip at this price. But the hardware market is generally crazy right now, so I'm sure this will sell as well, unfortunately.

where do you see "twice the memory bandwidth"?

He is making things up. It is the same bandwidth as DGX Spark (256 GB/s vs 273 GB/s) and far behind M3 Ultra (~819 GB/s)

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#118

i wish there was a system like strix halo, but with enough lanes for a dedicated PCIe 5.0 x16 slot so you can have the best of both worlds: large sparse models on CPU with unified memory, dense models on GPU with real tensors and higher bandwidth memory.

AMEN! 100% agree.

Plus a reasonably inexpensive super low-latency interconnect.

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#119
post #107

This is just a little under the price of NVidia's DGX Spark with CUDA or a Mac with 128GB and twice the memory bandwidth. The point of Strix Halo used to be that it was half the price of those way more capable machines. You'd be crazy to buy the AMD chip at this price. But the hardware market is generally crazy right now, so I'm sure this will sell as well, unfortunately.

Personally, I'm totally ok to have a competitor to Nvidia, regardless of whether they are under the price or not.

But ideally they would be competitive, right? If your goal is LLM or Diffusion inference or - god forbid - training, you're going to get way better performance on DGX Spark. The difference is more stark than 250 vs 273 GB/s bandwidth delta would suggest.

Now I think it's totally fine to have a less capable offering, and the Strix Halo is still a mighty capable machine for inference on mid-size MoEs. At 2k it was a tinkerer's dream. But the performance difference should be reflected in the price. This is roughly a doubling of the price compared to less than a year ago without adding any notable features, it's appalling.

Re: AMD Ryzen AI Halo – $4k AI Dev Kit

#120

In case it saves anyone some time (from the article): "The AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395(Strix Halo) processor has been available since Spring 2025 and the Halo doesn’t offer anything new on that front." It has the same 256 GB/s memory bandwidth limit as every board previously, not sure why this is even being released right now as if it's some new fangled thing - you can go get a Framework Desktop for roughly the same price…

This. I bought Framework Desktop in November 2025 with almost these exact specs for ~$2.5k

Same spec Framework costs $4k+ today, this is actually cheaper (albeit not as upgradable as framework).
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