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IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Apple is making the exact same mistake the RIM made. They've gone from targeting hardcore fans, to targeting teenagers. The problem is that teenagers are quick to jump ship to the coolest new thing. Apple has been making "coolest new thing" for a while, but they're getting really popular now, which seems to be inversely proportional to "cool". For RIM, they moved away from targeting hardcore, email-addicted business…

RIM never moved their target. In fact I still think they try and promote the Blackberry as the device for 'email-addicted business people'.

And I think it's because of the fact they thought their 'hard-core fans' would stick with them put them where they are today , not the other way around.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it have a standard SATA connector, or does it have the Apple-only-modified SATA connector as found in the rMBP?

There are two regular SATA ports on the logic board.

Well, two regular ports but the second one is at an odd angle. An adapter[1] is required to fill the second spot if you buy your Mini with only one drive.

[1]http://www.ifixit.com/Apple-Parts/Mac-Mini-Dual-Hard-Drive-K...

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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post #15

Apple is making the exact same mistake the RIM made. They've gone from targeting hardcore fans, to targeting teenagers. The problem is that teenagers are quick to jump ship to the coolest new thing. Apple has been making "coolest new thing" for a while, but they're getting really popular now, which seems to be inversely proportional to "cool". For RIM, they moved away from targeting hardcore, email-addicted business…

The device that made Apple what it is now is the iPod.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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post #15

Apple is making the exact same mistake the RIM made. They've gone from targeting hardcore fans, to targeting teenagers. The problem is that teenagers are quick to jump ship to the coolest new thing. Apple has been making "coolest new thing" for a while, but they're getting really popular now, which seems to be inversely proportional to "cool". For RIM, they moved away from targeting hardcore, email-addicted business…

> Apple is making the exact same mistake the RIM made. They've gone from targeting hardcore fans, to targeting teenagers.

Not sure what you're talking about. Apple, like any major technology company, has always targeted both hardcore fans and teenagers. Nothing's changed there.

On a related note, another constant in Apple's history has been its naysayers. Apple's critics are infamous for proclaiming in every year of the company's existence that it is doomed. People were saying exactly what you're saying 10 years ago when the iPod came out.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Apple still makes the Mac Pro if you're bent on physically upgrading your computer yourself.

Or, get an i7 Mac mini and put an SSD in it.

I went that route. The current Mini is by far the most complicated, scary computer I've worked in, and the SSD is the absolute first thing into the chassis.

It's doable, but it's far more complicated than the current (non-retina) MacBook Pro or any desktop I've ever worked in.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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As far as the non-upgradability of the rMBP, I don't think it's as much of a dealbreaker as some people, but Apple really could've done better. Develop a new type of low profile memory module and SSD, I'm sure some people would complain but it would be replaceable/upgradable.

>>I don't think it's as much of a dealbreaker as some people

It is the one big thing that makes me hesitate about buying an rMBP. SSD's are prone to failure according to many articles I've read and they also have a limited life span even if it doesn't have any defects. Once the thing gives up there is no way to easily swap it out and just insert a new one.

Also, sometimes I need to swap out hard drives (or SSD drives in this case). With the rMBP that is not possible. The rMBP is a nice computer but I really hope they see the error in their ways and add a replaceable standard SATA SSD.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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This sounds more like bandwagon-backlash than the real thing. There's no reasons here. Just a bunch of recycled generic complaints that are pretty trendy to toss around about Apple these days. The next cool thing is hating Apple so all the Apple users will probably write more articles like this and we'll have to read it every day on the front page. Brace yourselves.

Yeah I agree, such a troll bait article.

He states a bunch of things he doesnt like, but gives no reasons why they're bad.

At the end he still says he's running a Mac Book and it's the happiest he's ever been (albeit with Ubuntu but still). Makes no sense.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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post #4

As far as the non-upgradability of the rMBP, I don't think it's as much of a dealbreaker as some people, but Apple really could've done better. Develop a new type of low profile memory module and SSD, I'm sure some people would complain but it would be replaceable/upgradable.

>>I don't think it's as much of a dealbreaker as some people It is the one big thing that makes me hesitate about buying an rMBP. SSD's are prone to failure according to many articles I've read and they also have a limited life span even if it doesn't have any defects. Once the thing gives up there is no way to easily swap it out and just insert a new one. Also, sometimes I need to swap out hard drives (or SSD drives…

You can replace the SSD on the rMBP. There aren't a lot of options, but it is possible.

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Retina_2012

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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I feel exactly the same way. And just like the author. I don't quite fully understand why. By the way, I don't think the author is really criticizing Apple much. He just recognizes that Apple's vision is no longer in line with his own.

I wonder what was the vision he thought he shared with Apple ?

If you reverse all his points then it seems like in his mind Apple provided ultra customisable hardware and software with great options for the enterprise. I don't remember that Apple.

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