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Re: Organic Maps

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Aachen wrote: post #327
orbital-decay wrote: post #206

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And at the cost of map fidelity. Complex curves look terrible at certain zoom levels in CoMaps/Organic Maps.

Same in OsmAnd though. Someone recently posted a screenshot of an area they thought was badly mapped (with AI or at least not using the "make square corners" tool). Turns out to be Osmand's coordinate rounding as part of the map data compression Comparing a building in my city between the two maps by flipping between the apps, it looks identical to me. Not a scientific test though

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Re: Organic Maps

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Post by mwexler »

eisa01 wrote: post #213
mwexler wrote: post #114

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While default osm data is great, I've been very impressed with the partnership/collective of Overture Maps data. It's osm + esri/tomtom + corporate processing/funding. https://overturemaps.org/ While not updated as frequently, their releases have a pretty high quality and coverage.

Unfortunately they don't support opening hours in the schema, it's a deliberate choice as it's high value data the contributors would rather license to you

Did some digging: yeah, looks like they are keeping some things for themselves.

https://github.com/orgs/OvertureMaps/discussions/298

That being said, it's hard to fault them for trying to monetize some dimensions that are not well supplied by the public, and that companies work to acquire. Still, I agree, it's disappointing.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by orbital-decay »

xigoi wrote: post #298
bluebarbet wrote: post #275

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The performance advantage is small to nil, IME. The UI is admittedly cleaner, though partly (as you say) that's simply because it has a ton less features.

Interesting. When I switched from OsmAnd to Organic, the map loaded much faster as I panned it.

The difference mostly comes from the default detail levels and shape optimization. You can make it as fast in OsmAnd as both are GPU-accelerated, but OsmAnd renders the map more detailed by default.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by notabotiswear »

ygra wrote: post #267
jraph wrote: post #219

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I occasionally contribute to OSM. You just send your edit and they are directly live. I don't think there's prior moderation. On these apps you log in to OSM using an OSM account IIRC (though I mostly use EveryDoor or directly osm.org for this, occasionally StreetComplete, I don't contribute using Comaps)

Some apps don't edit OSM directly, but rather add a note on the map for others to edit. Maybe that's what they meant. E.g., OrganicMaps often creates these kinds of notes: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5377887 which for certain kinds of edits is safer than trying to directly edit. StreetComplete does the same in many cases when something no longer exists. I think, shops and other places can often be added direct…

Yes, OrganicMap pushes new places and metadata edits directly. I think they only use notes for deletions.

In batches, to be exact. Multiple edits in relatively short intervals (a few minutes) are commited as one.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by gedankenstuecke »

u8080 wrote: post #296
gedankenstuecke wrote: post #198

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the original developers of MM then just started to do the same to OM by equally aggressively ask for money :p

>do the same to OM by equally aggressively ask for money I use OM for a lot of years and never saw any aggressive money ask, could you point me what I am missing?

when opening the page for a place, the bottom for me regularly displays the "donation" ask which in good big tech fashion gives you the "ask again later" option.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by eisa01 »

atollk wrote: post #188
eisa01 wrote: post #4

Organic Maps was my go to app for a navigation app where you can fix errors yourself immediately! So much better than having to work for free on the proprietary apps, and hope they accept your edits There’s a fork from one year ago, CoMaps, that is gaining different features E.g., I am adding CarPlay Dashboard support that you can test by joining the TestFlight We are in great need of both more testers and some prope…

What do you mean by "scene lifecycle support"? In general, I like cleaning up old code bases. But I don't see how that relates to testing?

We need to do this transition, or contributors on macOS 27 won't be able to compile the app...

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/UIKit/transitionin...

Regarding testers we had a TestFlight build with non-functioning CarPlay, and it was only discovered by me (and I don't even own a car..)

If you're interested in taking a look, the easiest way to get involved would be to join our Zulip instance (Slack clone): https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/src/branch/main/docs/CONT...

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by eisa01 »

vrganj wrote: post #331
eisa01 wrote: post #4

Organic Maps was my go to app for a navigation app where you can fix errors yourself immediately! So much better than having to work for free on the proprietary apps, and hope they accept your edits There’s a fork from one year ago, CoMaps, that is gaining different features E.g., I am adding CarPlay Dashboard support that you can test by joining the TestFlight We are in great need of both more testers and some prope…

Has there been any discussion about moving the Android codebase to Kotlin? This seems like an interesting project to contribute a little bit to, but I can't deal with Java anymore...

Yes, there are some initial discussions around that!

It's probably easiest to discuss in the project's Zulip: https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/src/branch/main/docs/CONT...

Switch to Kotlin: https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/1984 Migrate to Compose: https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/4298

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by NoImmatureAdHom »

y04nn wrote: post #292

The quality of the maps is getting better, much more useful and detailed than Google Maps. I find it much easier to locate myself on Organic Maps than Google Maps. For example parks are only a green blob on Google Maps, while benches, walking paths, drinking water points, toilets and other landmarks and buildings are visible on Organic Maps. I find that adding transit lines or cycling routes as an overlay is also a g…

When you realize that Google Maps is a business directory that also happens to do mapping, things make sense.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by maelito »

Tmpod wrote: post #336
maelito wrote: post #63

Organic Maps and its fork Comaps still lack a Web client. We're this on https://cartes.app , trying to push the Web further (even on mobile devices) so that you don't even need an app for most use cases.

Wasn't aware of that one, neat! I'll leave another web app: https://osmapp.org

Yes, it's a similar project. We share the same stack.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by xattt »

idoubtit wrote: post #306
VorpalWay wrote: post #200

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I have used OsmAnd+ for well over 15 years by now, which also uses OSM data, just like these. And I have used JOSM on my PC to fix the OSM data myself. Does Organic maps / CoMaps offer anything OsmAnd+ doesn't for someone who uses it for car navigation (especially on back roads in the wilderness) as well as hiking? (All in the Nordic countries.) I also record tracks with it.

I also use OsmAnd~ for hiking, and even more for cycling. I tried CoMaps after a friend recommended it. In my experience, OsmAnd is much more powerful, and if you can tolerate its complexity and battery-drain, it's worth it. - CoMaps is much simpler, but lacks features. OsmAnd has (too many) features and requires heavy configuration, e.g. to disable some features I never use and optimize battery life. - Loading a tra…

> CoMaps is better at energy saving. OsmAnd drains my battery in 5-6 hours …

Have you considered a dynamo hub with a headlight with USB output?

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