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Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Post by rlpb »

cyberax wrote: post #204
digi59404 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do we permit such fire prone housing to be built just to save a few dollars. I know you didn’t mean it, but this question isn’t a question. It’s a statement formed as a question. It’s a judgement. It’s not a curiosity legitimately asking why. There are so many good reasons why houses in the US are built the way they are. Some of which are… 1. Concrete/Brick houses retain heat and are often harder to cool. They…

Since we're on a wild tangent here, the US house construction is also held back by the sheer momentum of wood-framed buildings. For example, aerated autoclaved concrete has better structural strength, doesn't need additional insulation, completely non-combustible, and is cheaper to build. Yet approximately nobody in the US uses it.

> For example, aerated autoclaved concrete has better structural strength, doesn't need additional insulation, completely non-combustible, and is cheaper to build.

Apparently it ages out though and becomes unsafe when it does, resulting in a scandal in the UK:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-66686864

"There is nothing fundamentally wrong with reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete (RAAC) as building material or system. Many buildings from the 60s and 70s built from many materials are now having problems due to inadequate maintenance, and old age."

I'm not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean. I've never heard of this problem with regular brick or concrete structures.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Post by LadyCailin »

chopin wrote: post #189
nearlyepic wrote: post #184

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> this reflects an aspect of American culture that you can’t just erase. Yeah, and that’s the problem. A whole country full of people belligerent enough to say “fuck you” to anyone who tells them “hey you probably shouldn’t blow your hand off”. What a wonderful place.

But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. It is hellish. I don't recognize the country any more in which I was born and raised.

If you are in the same insurance pool as me (state funded or otherwise) it is at least some of my business, yes?

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Post by quailfarmer »

inigyou wrote: post #218
lwansbrough wrote: post #186

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If they did this people like me would start setting off fireworks in protest.

If you set off a firework in front of a cop to protest fireworks being illegal, that would be illegal and you'd go to jail

But if you arrest him, I’m going to set off fireworks in protest. The market of stubbornness can remain solvent for a long time.

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Post by tpm »

chopin wrote: post #189
nearlyepic wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> this reflects an aspect of American culture that you can’t just erase. Yeah, and that’s the problem. A whole country full of people belligerent enough to say “fuck you” to anyone who tells them “hey you probably shouldn’t blow your hand off”. What a wonderful place.

But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. It is hellish. I don't recognize the country any more in which I was born and raised.

I don't know when you were born but I'm pretty sure Germany was regulation capital of the world already back then and this is just your nostalgia bias speaking (also I agree with you Germany is currently way way overregulated but also outsiders have no way to really understand the degree of overregulation).

But also the US pretty much care too much when you for example try to blow your head off with drugs instead of a gun or explosives so the grass is not that green on the other side either.

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Post by cryo32 »

chopin wrote: post #189
nearlyepic wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> this reflects an aspect of American culture that you can’t just erase. Yeah, and that’s the problem. A whole country full of people belligerent enough to say “fuck you” to anyone who tells them “hey you probably shouldn’t blow your hand off”. What a wonderful place.

But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. It is hellish. I don't recognize the country any more in which I was born and raised.

Depends which side of the wall you were born on…

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Post by cryo32 »

inigyou wrote: post #216
sdoering wrote: post #210

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> Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. Native born German. Calling BS on that crap. I recommend reading up on "freedom from" vs. "freedom to". Explains quite a lot of differences between the European tradition of ensuring people are "free from" an potentially oppressive state vs. the US tradition of "freedom to". In each "freedom of speech" index I know, Germany fares better than the US, or Bri…

In Germany you will get arrested if you publicly talk about Gaza and Israel

Having had that exact discussion with someone in Alexanderplatz right in front of the police building, nope.

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Post by bengale »

skybrian wrote: post #64
bluedino wrote: post #10

They really should be controlled a lot more - a nearby house was hit by some sort of Roman candle thing and completely burned down the other night. There was at least a lot less "illegal fireworks" when people had the drive two states away to buy them.

Doesn't help in California because people buy them in Nevada and resell them. Apparently that's easier to do nowadays due to the Internet? https://oaklandside.org/2026/07/01/illegal-fireworks-police-... > Despite strict fireworks bans in many cities, including Oakland, they’ve become a year-round nuisance in the Bay Area. And one of the primary ways they’re spread is through the enterprising but illegal work of small…

When I was in North Carolina on a trip the chap I was visiting said I'd know if I was crossing over to South Carolina when I saw all the fireworks shops as it was illegal to sell them in NC but not SC. Funny to see.

(No idea what the actual rules are, just repeating what he told me)

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Post by bengale »

SoftTalker wrote: post #16
bluedino wrote: post #10

They really should be controlled a lot more - a nearby house was hit by some sort of Roman candle thing and completely burned down the other night. There was at least a lot less "illegal fireworks" when people had the drive two states away to buy them.

Yeah not sure why that changed, when I was a kid you could only get sparklers and small stuff that stayed on the ground. Today I could get everything for a near-professional show if I wanted to spend the money.

I hate sparklers so much. Watchings kids wave those things about makes me feel so sick.

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Post by zamalek »

jmb99 wrote: post #89
zamalek wrote: post #72

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Stealing electricity is already illegal. Driving a truck into your home could be a genuine accident, but it's more likely that alcohol was involved first (which is illegal with driving).

Do you think it’s legal to shoot a firework at someone’s house?

Fireworks don't need to be intentionally aimed at a house for a forest, or a city, to ignite one.

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Post by hvb2 »

chopin wrote: post #189
nearlyepic wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> this reflects an aspect of American culture that you can’t just erase. Yeah, and that’s the problem. A whole country full of people belligerent enough to say “fuck you” to anyone who tells them “hey you probably shouldn’t blow your hand off”. What a wonderful place.

But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. It is hellish. I don't recognize the country any more in which I was born and raised.

> But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people.

Assuming you haven't lived in the US I think you're severely underestimating some of the stupidity going on.

So let's say your house has a thatched roof in California where it's bone dry and hot. At that point, the person lighting the fireworks will still say it's none of your business. Even if it's illegal and every year houses burn down as a result.

I don't think you get how much of an 'I don't care about anyone else, because FREEDOM... Murica' mindset exists unless you've lived there

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