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Re: Organic Maps

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Post by pastk »

einpoklum wrote: post #207
thinkingemote wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CoMaps is a fork/spin-off of Organic Maps, which in turn is a fork of Maps.ME

Ok, but - how is Organic Maps better than Maps.ME (and is Comaps better than Organic Maps in some way other than the transparency issues)?

Feature-wise projects grow more and more different. Ultimately it'd depend what exact features are important to you.

The following overview might help a bit: https://www.comaps.app/support/how-do-the-features-differ-fr... https://www.comaps.app/support/how-does-the-comaps-project-d...

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by y04nn »

The quality of the maps is getting better, much more useful and detailed than Google Maps. I find it much easier to locate myself on Organic Maps than Google Maps. For example parks are only a green blob on Google Maps, while benches, walking paths, drinking water points, toilets and other landmarks and buildings are visible on Organic Maps. I find that adding transit lines or cycling routes as an overlay is also a great feature. Even the search feature is getting broken on Google Maps, when making a search, it would show up advertised results (in red squares instead of red circles) and when browsing the map there are more advertised useless places surrounded by an almost empty map. The only advantage of Google Map is to find the best way from point A to point B and places reviews.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by kqr »

y04nn wrote: post #292

The quality of the maps is getting better, much more useful and detailed than Google Maps. I find it much easier to locate myself on Organic Maps than Google Maps. For example parks are only a green blob on Google Maps, while benches, walking paths, drinking water points, toilets and other landmarks and buildings are visible on Organic Maps. I find that adding transit lines or cycling routes as an overlay is also a g…

I often reference this comparison in this context: https://i.xkqr.org/gmapsvsosm.png

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by stigi »

la_fayette wrote: post #265
stigi wrote: post #155

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I'm working on something that is best described as Komoot meets Mastodon. Self hostable and federated. It's pretty early, and the UX is pretty bare bones still. If you're keen on checking it out you should be able to find it in my recent Github contributions, following the link in my profile.

ok cool, i see there is already a similar project called wanderer, so i assume the difference would be in the planning module? thx

Yes, I like wanderer (http://wanderer.to/) a lot!

The difference is the planning, I'm building my tool around a collaborative use case. I'm often doing multi day bikepacking trips with my close friends. The planner supports real time collaboration, so multiple people can plan on the same route together.

Also for me it's an experiment in AI driven development (which I hope won't alienate people to much).

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by ale42 »

y04nn wrote: post #292

The quality of the maps is getting better, much more useful and detailed than Google Maps. I find it much easier to locate myself on Organic Maps than Google Maps. For example parks are only a green blob on Google Maps, while benches, walking paths, drinking water points, toilets and other landmarks and buildings are visible on Organic Maps. I find that adding transit lines or cycling routes as an overlay is also a g…

In some places it always was better (it's OpenStreetMap data) e.g. in the Puna de Atacama desert in Argentina/Chile, Google Maps is years behind in therms of map precision. Lots of roads are missing from Google Maps. Plus, OrganicMaps working totally offline, it's perfect for such a place where the only Internet would be by satellite.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by u8080 »

gedankenstuecke wrote: post #198
TFNA wrote: post #153

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Maps.me got sold to a series of subsequent owners. It was those subsequent owners who enshittified the app, not the original developers mentioned in your quotation. The original developers only later returned to the codebase, because it was freely licensed, and forked it in a different direction.

the original developers of MM then just started to do the same to OM by equally aggressively ask for money :p

>do the same to OM by equally aggressively ask for money

I use OM for a lot of years and never saw any aggressive money ask, could you point me what I am missing?

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by VorpalWay »

gentile wrote: post #228
VorpalWay wrote: post #200

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I have used OsmAnd+ for well over 15 years by now, which also uses OSM data, just like these. And I have used JOSM on my PC to fix the OSM data myself. Does Organic maps / CoMaps offer anything OsmAnd+ doesn't for someone who uses it for car navigation (especially on back roads in the wilderness) as well as hiking? (All in the Nordic countries.) I also record tracks with it.

I've been making some custom maps for both Osmand and Comaps. The main big positive for Comaps I've seen is Android Auto being available freely (but you have osmand+ so moot point). But having used both, the tooling for osmand is far more mature. Creating an obf file (osmand file type) is a lot easier than the process for an mwm file (comaps file type). Far more routing or ui customization options in osmand and routi…

I happily own a car with nothing fancier than a bluetooth radio. No touch screens and no Android Auto is a blessing.

But from this and sibling comments it seems that CoMaps have nothing to offer me (except possibly better search).

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by xigoi »

bluebarbet wrote: post #275
xigoi wrote: post #55

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Much better performance and much less cluttered UI, at the cost of having fewer features.

The performance advantage is small to nil, IME. The UI is admittedly cleaner, though partly (as you say) that's simply because it has a ton less features.

Interesting. When I switched from OsmAnd to Organic, the map loaded much faster as I panned it.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by MayeulC »

Tmpod wrote: post #116
Cider9986 wrote: post #101

StreetComplete is one of my favorite apps. It's like Pokemon Go mixed with Wikipedia because it gamifies contributing to OpenStreetMap, which powers (all?) mainstream opensource maps. Looking forward to iOS support so more people can use it. https://streetcomplete.app/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/

For the more experience OSM contributors, there is also a fork called SCEE[1] that adds some extra "quests" and a ton of UI customisability! [1]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SCEE

Every Door is very good if you know what info you'd like to edit. It is my go-to app for editing POIs on the go.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Every_Door

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by cge »

rompic wrote: post #175
ryukoposting wrote: post #109

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I'll preface this by saying I can't speak for India. I live in the US. Use your own discretion to decide what here might apply to you. I've been using Organic Maps for almost 3 years. I lived in Chicago during this time, as well as some smaller American cities. I go back and forth between Organic Maps and GMaps depending on the situation. I've found that Organic Maps' lack of traffic data isn't a big deal for me. It…

In Europe you could use NUNAV, which does collaborative routing to avoid this scenario (I work for the company that develops it).

That would be interesting to try, but unfortunately, at least on iOS, it’s region-locked by account region, so as someone who goes back and forth between the US and Europe often, despite being in Europe, I’m entirely unable to install it at all without making significant changes to my Apple account.
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