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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by normis »

jona-f wrote: post #73
hn_user2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans use em dash as well. I hate that I have had to remove it from my writing style because people assume it’s AI generated. But I think that ship has sailed. I’ll have to do without now.

How do you type the em dash. I thought the point about the em dash "—" is, that it is longer than the normal minus "-". Humans normally have no way to produce it, cause there is no key on the keyboard.

At least in macOS there is a key for that on the keyboard, Shift + Option + Hyphen (-). This information is a quick internet search away.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by kirubakaran »

llelouch wrote: post #57
kirubakaran wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I don't think Fable will be taken away. Not for long anyway.

Still avialable through the API. According to people that have tried both Fable nad 5.6, Fable is clearly better at coding. So i expect a lot of people to pay extra for it.

But if 5.6 is better than Opus, Claude Code Max plan users will switch to OpenAI Codex en masse. Using Fable at API pricing is expensive

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by DenisM »

senordevnyc wrote: post #72
bigyabai wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He sure did seem to speed run the 'tech leader with scruples' to 'tech villain' path! What kind of rosy-eyed chump believes in the "tech leader with scruples" bullshit? It always lies. Did some people just ignore Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook's sociopathy, somehow? Did anyone buy into their "privacy is a human right" nonsense?

I find this kind of cynicism fascinating tbh. On the one hand, it seems so relatable in some ways, because there is something uncomfortable about being seen as naive, in a way that being seen as cynical or negative doesn't seem to carry. I guess it's just self-protective, almost like some kind of perverse Pascal's wager: it's better to think everyone is horrible and be wrong than to think the opposite and be taken ad…

It stops being interesting, or even sad, after a while. People get stuck in all kinds of places, mentally. Some get unstuck eventually. It’s only sad if you have come to a counter factual belief that it could have gone better.

I went in the opposite direction - how far can I push myself to see multiple facets of a story? That is a wild ride, and it gets progressively more wild.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by timbeccue »

jona-f wrote: post #73
hn_user2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans use em dash as well. I hate that I have had to remove it from my writing style because people assume it’s AI generated. But I think that ship has sailed. I’ll have to do without now.

How do you type the em dash. I thought the point about the em dash "—" is, that it is longer than the normal minus "-". Humans normally have no way to produce it, cause there is no key on the keyboard.

Macos, ios, google docs, and microsoft word will autocorrect two hyphens to an em dash, which is how I normally type it. On a mac you can also type an em dash with option-shift-hyphen.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by gbnwl »

andai wrote: post #4

For context: > Additionally, we’re introducing a new ultra mode that goes beyond the capabilities of a single agent by leveraging subagents to accelerate complex work. https://openai.com/index/previewing-gpt-5-6-sol/ Can someone explain how this compares with Pro? I thought Pro was already something similar.

How is this any different than what we have already? We've had this ability for ages (6+ months, decades in the AI world), you can literally today easily prompt CC or Codex to use subagents to accomplish tasks and they'll do it well. My entire workflow is one top level orchestrator chat creating tickets to dispatch to subagents to implement, and other subagents to verify. Why is this being sold as a new thing? Have HN users never tried tried asking CC or Codex to use subagents?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by icelancer »

jona-f wrote: post #73
hn_user2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans use em dash as well. I hate that I have had to remove it from my writing style because people assume it’s AI generated. But I think that ship has sailed. I’ll have to do without now.

How do you type the em dash. I thought the point about the em dash "—" is, that it is longer than the normal minus "-". Humans normally have no way to produce it, cause there is no key on the keyboard.

dash dash "--" on a lot of systems and word processors turns it into the em-dash automatically

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by agentifysh »

behnamoh wrote: post #14

I still don't know why OpenAI doesn't put gpt-5.5-pro in Codex. It's one hell of a model and easily parallels Fable/Mythos. Sure, it'll use up your quota much faster but that's the price some users are willing to pay for absolutely high quality responses. I think gpt-5.5-pro runs 12x parallel gpt-5.5 agents behind the scene and uses OpenAI's secret sauce to synthesize their answers into one insanely good response.

many of us and myself have been using chatgpt pro from codex cli for months now

https://github.com/agentify-sh/desktop

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by fragmede »

georgemcbay wrote: post #70
razodactyl wrote: post #43

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Not sure I know where I fall regarding your point: Yes to trade secrets, but also science and AI should be for the good of all. OpenAI seems to be trading roles back with Anthropic becoming misanthropic. I hope they both start heading in the direction of how the AI field was prior to LLMs. Collaboration and benefit for all should always be the primary motivator.

> Collaboration and benefit for all should always be the primary motivator. Of all the things to never happen, this is never going to happen the most. That train left the station for good once hundreds of billions to trillions of dollars were involved. On the bright side, in the long run I suspect the vast majority of the value of AI will not be captured by the model making labs and the vast investments in them are g…

implode, how?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by UnfitFootprint »

gbnwl wrote: post #85
andai wrote: post #4

For context: > Additionally, we’re introducing a new ultra mode that goes beyond the capabilities of a single agent by leveraging subagents to accelerate complex work. https://openai.com/index/previewing-gpt-5-6-sol/ Can someone explain how this compares with Pro? I thought Pro was already something similar.

How is this any different than what we have already? We've had this ability for ages (6+ months, decades in the AI world), you can literally today easily prompt CC or Codex to use subagents to accomplish tasks and they'll do it well. My entire workflow is one top level orchestrator chat creating tickets to dispatch to subagents to implement, and other subagents to verify. Why is this being sold as a new thing? Have H…

The top comment on the thread explains this will involve subagent to subagent comms.

To what effect I don’t know… I thought subagents were useful because they were explicitly single purpose and bound to a narrow context

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by ai_fry_ur_brain »

gbnwl wrote: post #85
andai wrote: post #4

For context: > Additionally, we’re introducing a new ultra mode that goes beyond the capabilities of a single agent by leveraging subagents to accelerate complex work. https://openai.com/index/previewing-gpt-5-6-sol/ Can someone explain how this compares with Pro? I thought Pro was already something similar.

How is this any different than what we have already? We've had this ability for ages (6+ months, decades in the AI world), you can literally today easily prompt CC or Codex to use subagents to accomplish tasks and they'll do it well. My entire workflow is one top level orchestrator chat creating tickets to dispatch to subagents to implement, and other subagents to verify. Why is this being sold as a new thing? Have H…

Because most people need complexity to be wrapped in a simple UI/UX. Most people just want the one-two button press and be on their way.
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