Delta said Sunday a post-flight inspection showed no damage to the aircraft.
Not surprising, as a firework is designed to disintegrate and the outer surface of a plane is not flammable. Bird strikes are probably a higher risk.
Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July
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#42Off topic but I went to a local town’s medium-sized professional fireworks show this weekend and there were none of those small flash really loud fireworks that shake you to the core. Not even in the grand finale. Oddly they are what I enjoy most. Have they gone out of fashion or do they mess too much with pets?
They sure haven't gone out of fashion on the streets of SF. My ears were ringing!
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Yeah not sure why that changed, when I was a kid you could only get sparklers and small stuff that stayed on the ground. Today I could get everything for a near-professional show if I wanted to spend the money.
When I was a kid you could get actual m80's that were like a quarter stick of dynamite. Now you can only get little firecrackers that don't even blow up little green army men. It's really dependent on your state laws. My state allows fireworks, so you can get most things but they are very limited in size and explosive content. What it amounts to is that most cities/counties don't enforce their existing laws in this a…
M80s were more like 1/8th of a stick, I think. My uncle bought quarter sticks of dynamite one time. Wow. Quite a bit bigger and louder than an M80, and M80s were LOUD! My dad's cousin blew off most of his thumb and parts of several fingers with one. It was old, and it had a flash fuse. He was planning to toss it, but it went off instantly. (Don't hold fireworks when you are lighting them.)
A couple of years ago my brother got some flat triangles from a guy on the side of the road. First thing I've seen in years that was like an M80. We put a flat soccer ball over one, and it went 50 feet in the air. Very fun.
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That’s such a strange thing to say. Should we only use things invented in the last 300 years on the 4th of July?
Now I wonder who invented wheat, or sugar (used to make cake)? Also hotdogs are made with Wiener sausages, which are from...
> Now I wonder who invented [...] sugar (used to make cake)?
If you're talking about the refined product, then India. If you're talking about the plant, then New Guinea and Taiwan.
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#46Am I the only one who thinks the risks are worth the reward? People are celebrating, kids are having fun. Yes a few people blow their hands off, but are we going to remove everything, one by one, in the name of safety?
Come on, it’s not a choice between complete anarchy and complete restriction. It is very, very fair for society to be like “hm I think X activity is easy to abuse in a way that hurts innocent bystanders,” and then limits the activity to people with licenses and training or things like that. Like no, it’s totally not cool to give a free pass to people who are putting other people’s lives and homes at risk. How would y…
You are arguing against a straw man. It was never claimed or even implied that society can't or shouldn't regulate activities that cause harm. The cost benefit tradeoff in this specific instance was called into question and the broader implications of a consistent application of the same bar across all of society was inquired about.
> you’re essentially saying that people should be free to play around with explosive devices in dense city neighborhoods. Fuck no, it’s fucking concerning to have an explosion rattle your windows.
This is nothing more than emotional grandstanding. You could construct similar rants against a canister of gas or bottle of starter fluid. Obviously how you use the thing is important.
Lest you miss my point or think I miss the mark there are video footage of clueless people nearly killing themselves and others through entirely avoidable mishaps with gasoline abound.
The question is the amount of knowledge and judgment required, the likelihood of mishap, and the size of the consequences when one inevitably happens. Regulation needs to balance these things against utility and personal freedom.
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#47I loved playing with fireworks as a kid, and surprisingly have all appendages and senses intact, I even considered pyro as a job - so I definitely get the appeal. I just think it's time that we left it to the professionals. Unless you are engaging in science or physics, I don't see the value in letting them off yourself. ~~It's also weird that America's birthday is celebrated using a Chinese invention.~~ Edit: bad po…
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freedom loving Democratic socialist here, this stance is very St Thomas Aquinas of you. let people continue to do the things you did without pulling up the ladder behind you. it's just for a night or two, the animals will live.
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#48Delta said Sunday a post-flight inspection showed no damage to the aircraft. Not surprising, as a firework is designed to disintegrate and the outer surface of a plane is not flammable. Bird strikes are probably a higher risk.
Many fireworks are designed to explode at altitude. The biggest risk is probably if the firework is ingested into an engine (also a major risk for bird strikes).
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#49I loved playing with fireworks as a kid, and surprisingly have all appendages and senses intact, I even considered pyro as a job - so I definitely get the appeal. I just think it's time that we left it to the professionals. Unless you are engaging in science or physics, I don't see the value in letting them off yourself. ~~It's also weird that America's birthday is celebrated using a Chinese invention.~~ Edit: bad po…
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Pollution too.
Microbits of plastic, atmospheric smoke, splintered pieces of wood, wildfires.
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#50Delta said Sunday a post-flight inspection showed no damage to the aircraft. Not surprising, as a firework is designed to disintegrate and the outer surface of a plane is not flammable. Bird strikes are probably a higher risk.
Many fireworks are designed to explode at altitude . The biggest risk is probably if the firework is ingested into an engine (also a major risk for bird strikes).
99% of them also don’t have enough explosive force to do more than damage a hand.