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Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by dofm »

_fat_santa wrote: post #76

I think what everyone underestimated was the absolute bonkers amount of compute it will take and how that compute must scale in order to keep up with larger and larger models.

And yet this doesn't turn out to be Meta's problem at all.

https://uk.pcmag.com/ai/165970/meta-exploring-option-to-sell...

Meta bought too many GPUs, has spare GPU capacity and they are exploring renting that capacity out.

The problem is not that the models need too much to do the job. If that were the case, Meta would not have spare capacity.

The problem is that the models currently can't be made to do the job.

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by 0xcafefood »

_fat_santa wrote: post #76

I think what everyone underestimated was the absolute bonkers amount of compute it will take and how that compute must scale in order to keep up with larger and larger models.

That seems like such an easy thing to estimate with a bit of basic napkin math.

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by dofm »

amelius wrote: post #79

"I was hoping AI had progressed enough so I could fire you. But you failed to make it so. Therefore, you're fired!"

Or: you wasted too much money on failing to replace yourselves so now I have to lay you off. Which is one of the two possible grand outcomes of the AI bubble, which both result in laying people off, because that is all these companies know how to do as a response to stress.

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by jalev »

_fat_santa wrote: post #76

I think what everyone underestimated was the absolute bonkers amount of compute it will take and how that compute must scale in order to keep up with larger and larger models.

Is that a problem for Meta though? They recently announced they're going to sell their excess compute, so I imagine the actual problem is they're resorting to doing that because AI isn't having nearly the effect/usage it was supposed to and now Zuck is being a sore winner about it

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by laweijfmvo »

0xcafefood wrote: post #82
_fat_santa wrote: post #76

I think what everyone underestimated was the absolute bonkers amount of compute it will take and how that compute must scale in order to keep up with larger and larger models.

That seems like such an easy thing to estimate with a bit of basic napkin math.

for us, maybe, but for someone who never really used the workflow, or looked at the “thinking” output where models spin their tokens on the stupidest shit, i can see how it wasn’t obvious.

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by laweijfmvo »

dofm wrote: post #81
_fat_santa wrote: post #76

I think what everyone underestimated was the absolute bonkers amount of compute it will take and how that compute must scale in order to keep up with larger and larger models.

And yet this doesn't turn out to be Meta's problem at all. https://uk.pcmag.com/ai/165970/meta-exploring-option-to-sell... Meta bought too many GPUs, has spare GPU capacity and they are exploring renting that capacity out. The problem is not that the models need too much to do the job. If that were the case, Meta would not have spare capacity. The problem is that the models currently can't be made to do the job.

I think Meta’s massive compute investment was never about its 100,000 engineers running coding models, but its 3,500,000,000 users wanting to use AI in every single product (and some new ones: Meta AI, glasses, etc.) So I would think that’s the part that’s not being utilized anywhere near the amount they hoped...
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