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My ASN Journey series (2024)

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Re: My ASN Journey series (2024)

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Post by miyuru »

> No, you can ask your provider to announce the IPs for you via a private ASN, but I have not seen a provider that is cheap enough to do BYOIP without an ASN. Getting your own ASN is the best option.

BYOIP in AWS is free. and VPC have lot of customisable and all are well documented.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ec2-byoi...

Re: My ASN Journey series (2024)

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Post by antonalekseev »

kryptocannon wrote: post #3
antonalekseev wrote: post #2

A comprehensive beginners guide about getting your own ASN and own IP address

Is there a difference in costs/fees if you were to do this as a registered company w.r.t. an individual?

I believe, RIPE charges both types of parties the same amount for independent number resources and ASNs. Can't tell for the other RIRs. The main difference is that organisations are usually obtain LIR status as well in order to remove an intermediary between them and the RIR. And LIR fees are substantial (1K EUR sign-up, 1.8K EUR per annum) and individuals are probably not eligible for the status.

Re: My ASN Journey series (2024)

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Post by inigyou »

ParadisoShlee wrote: post #6

Thank you for this guide! I've been looking into getting an ASN in Australia, but the cost is much worth and the requirements stricter. There also isn't the same kind of ecosystem locally (such as LIRs)

I believe APNIC requires you to be a registered company unlike RIPE who will allow individuals as customers, but the flip side is that becoming a company in Australia is quite easy paperwork, unlike in Germany where you have to put up a $25000 bond.

Edit: APNIC also wants you to provide some plans for your network upfront while RIPE NCC is more willing to just assume good faith. But their requirements do not seem onerous, and you are not held to the plans, it's just to check you have a need for the resources.

Re: My ASN Journey series (2024)

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Post by inigyou »

antonalekseev wrote: post #5
kryptocannon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a difference in costs/fees if you were to do this as a registered company w.r.t. an individual?

I believe, RIPE charges both types of parties the same amount for independent number resources and ASNs. Can't tell for the other RIRs. The main difference is that organisations are usually obtain LIR status as well in order to remove an intermediary between them and the RIR. And LIR fees are substantial (1K EUR sign-up, 1.8K EUR per annum) and individuals are probably not eligible for the status.

I think RIPE allows an individual to be an LIR because sole proprietorships are very common in some European countries. But you really shouldn't be an LIR for no reason, and the fee rightfully discourages that. If you want a PI block, get a PI block, instead of trying to pretend you're an LIR and then getting annoyed LIRs have high fees.

By the way it's high because the operating costs of the RIR are divided amongst LIRs - there's no other significant income source.

Re: My ASN Journey series (2024)

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Post by toast0 »

inigyou wrote: post #8
ParadisoShlee wrote: post #6

Thank you for this guide! I've been looking into getting an ASN in Australia, but the cost is much worth and the requirements stricter. There also isn't the same kind of ecosystem locally (such as LIRs)

I believe APNIC requires you to be a registered company unlike RIPE who will allow individuals as customers, but the flip side is that becoming a company in Australia is quite easy paperwork, unlike in Germany where you have to put up a $25000 bond. Edit: APNIC also wants you to provide some plans for your network upfront while RIPE NCC is more willing to just assume good faith. But their requirements do not seem one…

APNIC also has the advantage of having /24s reserved for new applicants (last I checked)
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