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My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by cataphract »

bbg2401 wrote: post #7
ekinertac wrote: post #2

Author here. To be upfront about what this is: I'm not a Rust developer or a PHP internals person. This is an experiment in whether the "point the AI at the original project's test suite" methodology (the way Bun was driven against real-world suites) holds up when the human can't review the code. The oracle is php-src's own .phpt corpus, ~22k tests I didn't write. Current honest score: 3,844 passing (17.4%), with a r…

Will you answer questions yourself, or will you simply pass on what your LLM of choice writes for you? Edit: On further inspection, the blog design, the blog build, the blog articles and even the anecdotes used in the articles are entirely Claude generated. Stop being so lazy. Get Claude to do something interesting and use your own intellect to assess and challenge the work in your write up. Or the other way around.…

The "honest score" is the most annoying claudism of the comment, with the short disjoint sentences a close second.

Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by superdisk »

cataphract wrote: post #41
bbg2401 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will you answer questions yourself, or will you simply pass on what your LLM of choice writes for you? Edit: On further inspection, the blog design, the blog build, the blog articles and even the anecdotes used in the articles are entirely Claude generated. Stop being so lazy. Get Claude to do something interesting and use your own intellect to assess and challenge the work in your write up. Or the other way around.…

The "honest score" is the most annoying claudism of the comment, with the short disjoint sentences a close second.

It was "I need you to sit with:" that immediately made me close the article. I like LLM programming, but I really don't understand why so many people just post LLM-generated articles. What did the human even do at that point, press the start button?

Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by flurpitude »

jedbrooke wrote: post #39
t1234s wrote: post #35

I feel like the future will be a git repository with text files and a markdown file describing how the site should look and how any endpoints needed for functionality should work and the AI will be the runtime for your site instead of wordpress.

already been tried: https://github.com/samrolken/nokode Maybe LLMs will eventually get to the place where it replaces even the OS kernel

Using an LLM as a live runtime would always be a wildly inefficient and less reliable way to perform routine, deterministic tasks compared to traditional code.

Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by asp_hornet »

techscruggs wrote: post #34
sshine wrote: post #13

My boss asked me to set up a WordPress for a product landing page. I naturally won't do this; it's no more than a couple of weeks ago that some SQL injection landed in the search query function of this monstrosity. WordPress always was and always will be terrible. So I set up the landing page with a Hugo static site, and I've been vibe-coding a WordPress-like dashboard that operates on git repositories containing Hug…

Let me make sure I am hearing you right. 1) The person you report to asked you to accomplish a discrete task 2) of standing up one of the most common websites on the planet 3) and your response was to begin building your own custom CMS? I know I am removing the train of thought that led you down this path, but is there anything I just said that is factually false?

Is this the “taste” I keep hearing people say they bring?

Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by fastily »

kmoser wrote: post #32
sshine wrote: post #13

My boss asked me to set up a WordPress for a product landing page. I naturally won't do this; it's no more than a couple of weeks ago that some SQL injection landed in the search query function of this monstrosity. WordPress always was and always will be terrible. So I set up the landing page with a Hugo static site, and I've been vibe-coding a WordPress-like dashboard that operates on git repositories containing Hug…

Just to clarify: you think your vibecoded dashboard is more secure than WordPress? Not saying you're wrong, just wondering why you think you're right. Are you auditing the generated code, or is it a giant yolo?

I’m reasonably certain GP is (humorously) trolling us

Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by UncleEntity »

lawrenceduk wrote: post #5

Is it astonishing you got to 17% with some vibe code? Sure. But most of the stuff I’ve vibe coded this year has been astonishing by 2025’s standards. If you got 100% I’d be genuinely blown away.

What I suspect is this 17% is the exact sub-set it needed to hack together to make the goal (running some example website) a reality as this is what those dodgy weasels do if you let them. Then you get to spend 200x the time to fill in the rest of the "speculative features deferred due to no real consumer" on top of whatever dodgy system they made up, which is usually whatever is easiest/closest to the literature instead of the actual intended design. Lots and lots of fun to be had doing the full-pipeline refactors to add that last 2% which need support from tip to tail.

It's all in good fun, though... probably?

Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by igetspam »

techscruggs wrote: post #34
sshine wrote: post #13

My boss asked me to set up a WordPress for a product landing page. I naturally won't do this; it's no more than a couple of weeks ago that some SQL injection landed in the search query function of this monstrosity. WordPress always was and always will be terrible. So I set up the landing page with a Hugo static site, and I've been vibe-coding a WordPress-like dashboard that operates on git repositories containing Hug…

Let me make sure I am hearing you right. 1) The person you report to asked you to accomplish a discrete task 2) of standing up one of the most common websites on the planet 3) and your response was to begin building your own custom CMS? I know I am removing the train of thought that led you down this path, but is there anything I just said that is factually false?

AI has helped us all lose the plot because now we don’t just know better than everyone else, we can prove it by project managing our better versions of the same things.

What I find really great is that we’re only a prompt or two away from proper docs for these novel solutions but we still don’t make them and if we do, we definitely don’t read them first.

Re: My AI-built PHP engine in Rust passes 17% of PHP-src tests, renders WordPress

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Post by UncleEntity »

gamblor956 wrote: post #6

Maybe the takeaway is that 20% is about all the LLM can muster.

I mean, I got them to 100% using the official conformance suite on my copy-and-patch jit compiler/interpreter WASM VM...

Saw that Salt Language article a day to two ago on how they do the static verification as part of the compilation process (or whatever they really get up to) and that's next on the agenda, tried that with a JavaCard VM I was poking at as its 'computation space' is much smaller but that was too much for my poor little laptop to handle but, apparently, this Salt thing is much different and actually tractable so, we'll see, still working out the details.

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