Better Models: Worse Tools
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#12Is this still a thing? I thought Anthropic walked back the silent downgrades so now all the different domains downgrade non-silently.
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#13In my harness i implemented apply_patch just taking unified diffs for patch -p1. I was shocked to see how bad models are at generating them. I started logging diff failures to analyse - - All models are terrible at generating line numbers for a proper diff, give up on them - Some models (Owl-alpha) must have been post-trained on Codex transcripts, because they occasionally push its V4A patch format into any diff tool…
Only need ~650 tokens of system prompt for it to work. It’s pretty stellar.
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#14> In case you are curious about Fable: I intentionally did not test it because I was not sure if the classifiers they are running might downgrade me to Opus silently. Is this still a thing? I thought Anthropic walked back the silent downgrades so now all the different domains downgrade non-silently.
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#15The curl command is extremely popular so models seem to be really good at using it.
Also I like that curl uses a bash syntax and my platform requires JSON payloads; it makes the separation clear to the agent. I find it to be very reliable.
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#16> My strongest hypothesis is that this is not random deterioration but a training artifact. [...] Anthropic’s own client appears to expect and accept a fair amount of slop and repairs it, mostly silently
> If reinforcement learning happens in a harness like that, or a simulation of one, then slightly malformed tool calls can still complete the task and receive reward.
> Worse, the model may become very strongly adapted to the canonical Claude Code edit tool shape.
> Tool schemas are somewhere in the distribution and some shapes are close to what the model saw during post-training and some are far away.
Great article.
Interesting root cause hypothesis. Couldn't one simply strip the slop-handling from the RL env's harness to avoid this though?
I do agree on the walled garden being built here. Proprietary frontier models performing best in proprietary harnesses makes sense for Anthropic's interests.
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#18When building agent integration for my serverless backend https://saasufy.com/ , I decided to not use MCP but to put curl commands inside skill markdown files instead: https://github.com/Saasufy/skills The curl command is extremely popular so models seem to be really good at using it. Also I like that curl uses a bash syntax and my platform requires JSON payloads; it makes the separation clear to the agent. I find it…
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#19Edit: found it, it’s called Grammar-Constrained Decoding (GCD)
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#20I definitely think models may be trained to use particular popular harnesses or expect certain fields in the editing-tool or other tool schemas. Rather than trying to conform to (or force) one particular format, my approach instead is to design flexibly enough to handle a wide array of possible inputs and tool calls, but that also help the agent recover whenever its tool calls truly can't be salvaged and have to return etrors, and to auto-normalize results whenever reasonable to do so. It really does make a very dramatic difference (I wouldn't have bothered to launch if I thought it wasn't a meaningful advance) but anyway, just wanted to share my perspective given that I live and breathe this problem all day, every day.