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Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

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Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#131

Who is behind Annas archive, there is a lot of english speakers involved in the team and forums! Anyway as long as buying isn´t owning no issues here.

I think Anna is behind it. https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Annas_Archive/comments/1f6h74r... https://reddit.com/r/Annas_Archive/comments/1f6h74r/im_curio...

> ANother aNonymous Address.

True or not I rather like that one.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#132

If you shouldn't be able to copyright GRAPES...you shouldn't be able to copyright BOOKS.

And why's that? I don't see how either of those two things relate to one another. A grape is a naturally occurring fruit, while the creation of a book is wholly a human creative endeavor.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#133

Who is behind Annas archive, there is a lot of english speakers involved in the team and forums! Anyway as long as buying isn´t owning no issues here.

I’d reckon many books available on there are otherwise available DRM-free, you’d be surprised really how many authors don’t bother with DRM.

And then you could obviously just buy it physically where buying is definitely owning, so I find that sentence a bit inappropriate for books

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but they openly make a lot of money from selling their library to AI companies. Fast enterprise access to Anna's Archive starts at $100.000

A lot? I would be kind of interested if there were any known figures. Do companies want to be implicated in AA-cooperation in any capacity?

No specific figures, but see, for example:

https://annas-archive.gl/blog/ai-copyright.html

> Virtually all major companies building LLMs contacted us to train on our data. Most (but not all!) US-based companies reconsidered once they realized the illegal nature of our work. By contrast, Chinese firms have enthusiastically embraced our collection, apparently untroubled by its legality.

> We have given high-speed access to about 30 companies. Most of them are LLM companies, and some are data brokers, who will resell our collection. Most are Chinese, though we’ve also worked with companies from the US, Europe, Russia, South Korea, and Japan. DeepSeek admitted that an earlier version was trained on part of our collection, though they’re tight-lipped about their latest model (probably also trained on our data though).

It's at least 30 companies, each of which paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#136
post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Anna is behind it. https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Annas_Archive/comments/1f6h74r... https://reddit.com/r/Annas_Archive/comments/1f6h74r/im_curio...

> ANother aNonymous Address. True or not I rather like that one.

>Stands up "I am Anna!!"

This one's good as well. This is an example of a rare good Reddit thread.

Apparently this is the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0

But this is what I thought of: https://youtu.be/hdsB99HQ2S8?t=194

All are examples of people with less power protecting each-other from a more powerful force.

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#137
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I live in a country where the selection of available books, especially in English, is very limited. Buying online from foreign markets comes with a long list of administrative hurdles and limits. If it were not for Anna's Archive and Z-Library, I would've never been able to read the books that shaped who I am today, or keep my passion for learning alive. Thanks, AA and ZLib! (Also, thank you to the authors whose book…

https://send.djazz.se/ This is key for getting epubs to your Kobo.

Or... just a USB cable?

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#138

HN logic: Training on copyrighted material --> bad Actually distributing copyrighted material --> good Needless to say, this is backwards. Any copyright holder will be much more worried about the latter.

This could be another fine example of the Goomba fallacy: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Goomba_fallacy

Another explanation might be a general dislike of big establishments like AI companies and publishers (which glosses over individual authors, but they probably make up a negligible portion of total sales anyway).

Re: Google Books (or similar) all book scans – $200k bounty (2025)

#140
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's a bubble, why do you care about frontier models?

Internet was a bubble, so was telecom etc. at some point. Being bubble does not mean that when 90% of investments go down the drain the remains are not useful.

Railways were both a bubble and, eventually, one of the most significant technological innovations in history.
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