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Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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In one of the IL-2 Sturmovik games you could fly the Polikarpov Po-2. It's pretty fun because it can maneuver effectively at a speed below the stall speed of most German fighters, so it's pretty much impossible for them to "saddle up" on you for a tracking shot.

As a result unless the AA batteries get you, or Fritz gets lucky lobbing a Mk 108 shell at you from long range, it's actually pretty safe and effective.

Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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Meanwhile, the B-29 was under development in the US. Built almost entirely by women, men refused to fly it citing safety concerns.

So Paul Tibbets, (who went on to drop Little Boy on Hiroshima) taught a crew of women to fly the aircraft.

The logic being; if women can fly it safely, then surely men can too.

Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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In the Apple TV series "Star City" the head of the KGB surveillance department is referred to as the "Night Witch"

Shout out for Star City (and For All Mankind of course). The first ten minutes of FAM hit me unexpectedly hard, and the overall science fiction of both series is awesome.

Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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In one of the IL-2 Sturmovik games you could fly the Polikarpov Po-2. It's pretty fun because it can maneuver effectively at a speed below the stall speed of most German fighters, so it's pretty much impossible for them to "saddle up" on you for a tracking shot. As a result unless the AA batteries get you, or Fritz gets lucky lobbing a Mk 108 shell at you from long range, it's actually pretty safe and effective.

Interesting, seems like the Soviets love low stall speed planes. The AN-2 was also famous for having a vertical descent speed slower than parachutes at full back elevator deflection.

Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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post #22

Meanwhile, the B-29 was under development in the US. Built almost entirely by women, men refused to fly it citing safety concerns. So Paul Tibbets, (who went on to drop Little Boy on Hiroshima) taught a crew of women to fly the aircraft. The logic being; if women can fly it safely, then surely men can too.

I think the logic was more like a ego thing, like it cannot be that they can do it and we not, as seen in many man first cultures.

Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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So when they get pregnant at the last moment their training is wasted and a soldier is lost. And if they don't get pregnant with the right timing, they get fed into a meat grinder at the front? It seems suboptimal. And if the survival of your culture depends on forcing women to breed on fear of death, better if it doesn't.

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Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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post #22

Meanwhile, the B-29 was under development in the US. Built almost entirely by women, men refused to fly it citing safety concerns. So Paul Tibbets, (who went on to drop Little Boy on Hiroshima) taught a crew of women to fly the aircraft. The logic being; if women can fly it safely, then surely men can too.

Interestingly, "Flight of the Enola Gay" by Paul Tibbets does not mention this, though other narratives did.

The B-29 did have a major problem with engine fires, due to poor cooling of the engines and magnesium parts. An early test flight of it had such a fire, killing the 11 man crew. This problem was never fully resolved, and the B-29s were pushed into combat with this problem. Having an engine fire somewhere over the Pacific must have been utterly terrifying.

The B-29 also did not have hydraulic boost. It's a much bigger and heavier airplane than the B-17, which also did not have boost. The B-17, under emergency conditions, required a great deal of strength on the part of the pilots. My dad flew B-17s. He said that if 3 engines were out and only one outboard engine was running, it took all of a man's strength stepping on the rudder to keep the airplane straight. Even so, he could only keep it up for 10 minutes at a time, switching between pilot and copilot.

WW2 airplanes were designed with a man's strength in mind. The P-51, for example, required a great deal of strength to control it at high speeds and in emergency conditions.

Women pilots were used to ferry P-51s. Many were lost in crashes. My dad, who also flew P-51s, suspected that they ran into conditions where they weren't strong enough to control it.

The Night Witches flew fighter planes that were half the weight of the P-51, making them well suited for female pilots.

The advent of hydraulically boosted flight controls resolved this. Boeing lightened the "feel" forces on jet airliner controls to accommodate women pilots.

Re: Night Witches – all-female Soviet aviator regiment WW2

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post #22

Meanwhile, the B-29 was under development in the US. Built almost entirely by women, men refused to fly it citing safety concerns. So Paul Tibbets, (who went on to drop Little Boy on Hiroshima) taught a crew of women to fly the aircraft. The logic being; if women can fly it safely, then surely men can too.

To be clear, it's "Built almost entirely by women, men refused to fly it citing safety concerns [about the engines catching fire]." and not "...men refused to fly it citing safety concerns [because it was built by women]."
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