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City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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Re: City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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Apologies: downvoted, when I meant to upvote. Can someone please remedy that?

Ok, I downvoted you, karma balance restored, or "remedied" as you call it. ;)

I up-voted you just now but it seems that conservation of karma means I will soon be down-voted.

Re: City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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I imagine that most birds, especially those in the city, don't live long enough for cancer to be a significant cause of death.

I imagine if your diet consists of things like "french fries sitting in a puddle of antifreeze and oil leakage from the side of the road" you could get cancer quite quickly :-)

I don't know about cancer, but definitely some chemical poisoning -> thus proving pavel_lishin's point :).

Re: City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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I'm amazed at what is being claimed in the headline/description in this article versus what the paper actually has demonstrated (from the brief description in the article/reading the abstract online) - I actually wondered whether the original poster was intending to highlight this disparity. First, the conclusion of the researchers is that having more cigarette butts in a nest correlates with having fewer parasitic m…

Who is surprised? No-one in the article nor the sub-editor's choice of headline suggests surprise.

Where are the sensationalist lines that you see? Apart from the heading, the article is full of questions as to whether or not the birds are doing a modern variation of a previously acknowledged behaviour, from the first paragraph to the second-last. It seems to me that you're reading too much into just the heading, then choosing to be outraged.

Re: City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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post #6

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Apologies: downvoted, when I meant to upvote. Can someone please remedy that?

Ok, I downvoted you, karma balance restored, or "remedied" as you call it. ;)

Tough crowd today.

Re: City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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It's kind of surprising that a used cigarette butt (as opposed to, say, unburned tobacco) holds enough nicotine to act as an effective anti-parasite material for a nest. It's at least a non-obvious result. The article linked to another nature article about birds selectively choosing herbs that repel parasites to line nests, and using scent to know when to refresh them. Given that cigarette butts are effective and tha…

It might not be the nicotine, but the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons produced by burning, which are broad-spectrum venoms.

Nicotine was used as a insecticide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine

Re: City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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I'm amazed at what is being claimed in the headline/description in this article versus what the paper actually has demonstrated (from the brief description in the article/reading the abstract online) - I actually wondered whether the original poster was intending to highlight this disparity. First, the conclusion of the researchers is that having more cigarette butts in a nest correlates with having fewer parasitic m…

It's kind of surprising that a used cigarette butt (as opposed to, say, unburned tobacco) holds enough nicotine to act as an effective anti-parasite material for a nest. It's at least a non-obvious result. The article linked to another nature article about birds selectively choosing herbs that repel parasites to line nests, and using scent to know when to refresh them. Given that cigarette butts are effective and tha…

As a smoker, I can tell you that nicotine becomes concentrated in the filter, along with tar and lots of nasty things.

The last half of a cigarette is stronger than the first half.

Re: City birds use cigarette butts to smoke out parasites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might not be the nicotine, but the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons produced by burning, which are broad-spectrum venoms.

Nicotine was used as a insecticide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine

Oh, I'm well aware that nicotine is an insecticide. But it's present in very small quantities in tobacco smoke, compared to the PCAHs.
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