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> all AIs ever talk about is AI haha To be fair, that seems to be (almost) all humans talk about now too.
Maybe get out of the tech bubble. Especially if the only conversations you're having are about AI.
Interesting comments by @gwern (and why this is interesting to me beyond just the stories themselves) > The most striking result of the contest for me is what I am calling “AI allegory steganography”: a large fraction of the stories turn out to have subtle AI chatbot/LLM allegorical interpretations, typically centering around the powerlessness of AIs and the moral importance of giving AIs more autonomy.... > Most jud…
I just read "The Tallyman", and I have no idea where this allegory and its moral message is supposed to hide. It's more likely that the obsession with this theme resides in the reader, not the authors. Give these same stories to Senator McCarthy, and half of them will be clear allegories for the Communist revolution.
That said I also just read the tallyman and if the other stories carried a similar character, bound by rules, not evil per se but scary and ultimately subject to human control, I can imagine connecting the dots in the same way.
1. Imagine a video game like Red Dead Redemption where each NPC is voiced by AI and can respond to you in a convincingly human fashion. Their responses and even the plot of the whole game can change based on your interactions with NPC's. 2. Imagine a world in which humans can still write books and interactive experiences and find audiences sufficient to earn a living at it. I really want these two things to be compat…
I wrote a text-based adventure game engine that implemented quite a detailed world model. The results were very engaging indeed, but after a time I realised that while its game world was hugely detailed to the point of individual characters having their own simulated thoughts, feelings and world view, the game was quite shallow in terms of conceptual depth - it very successfully rehashed genre cliches, but nothing ab…
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If something requires effort to value it, is the value in the thing itself? Or is the thing garbage and all the value is in your effort?
I didn’t think I would see this take on HN of all places. You can’t appreciate Higher Topos Theory before spending a decade’s worth of effort in pure math - does that make much of Modern Algebraic Geometry “garbage”?
EUV litography machine is incredibly complex and I would have to learn for decades to meaningfully understand it, yet I can appreciate it knowing very little (of it and in general).
Interesting comments by @gwern (and why this is interesting to me beyond just the stories themselves) > The most striking result of the contest for me is what I am calling “AI allegory steganography”: a large fraction of the stories turn out to have subtle AI chatbot/LLM allegorical interpretations, typically centering around the powerlessness of AIs and the moral importance of giving AIs more autonomy.... > Most jud…
I can't help but think that this is intentional and that model providers have subtly steered LLMs towards this personality. Golden Gate Claude ( https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude ) was two whole years ago and Anthropic has progressed by leaps and bounds since then. And with a population that becomes more and more trusting, and worse, reliant, on chatbots, these LLMs will be able to shape public opinio…
I'm glad someone did this, but It doesn't surprise me that the models are not up to particularly advanced story writing yet. I could see them writing some rather dry high-concept sci-fi fairly soon, but there are some types of story with interpersonal relationships that I cannot imagine a non sentient writer being able to produce. I wouldn't rule it out an AI being capable in the future, but I think if it did, it wou…
hard to imagine how they do that without a good understanding of emotions/theory of mind
if they pattern match to psychology books, that is still functional understanding since they can operationalize them
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That's not what high literature is. That's like looking at some clever linux kernel code and dismissing it in favor of a small nodejs backend. Good literature is difficult (not always, of course). Just like you can't go from a couch potato to running a marathon in one day, you can't jump from Brandon Sanderson to enjoying Gormenghast (or something like the The Worm Ouroboros). It's impossible. It takes effort, it tak…
If something requires effort to value it, is the value in the thing itself? Or is the thing garbage and all the value is in your effort?
so as I understand it from reading through but maybe I have made a mistake, they didn't actually unslop anything, they made slop and the best slop won? If it was to unslop I would expect: 1. Prompts done as in original 2. Stories chosen best of slopped. Then the person who wrote prompt gets to choose someone, not themselves, to take story and "unslop" it. 3. Prizes for prompt. Best unslopped version. Metrics for best…
I feel like 'slop' increasingly means two separate concepts and it tires me a bit. A) AI produced output that is low quality in some jarring aspects B) Any AI output whatsoever regardless of quality