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Espionage Against the European Parliament

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Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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Any source for that “Apple just doesn’t care”, as opposed to thinking there are security/privacy tradeoffs or other considerations that cut against such a feature?

If Apple can store the sms/iMessage, and email history, and health/journal history, and my Wallet payment history, in a safe manner I would think Apple can store notification history in a safe manner. How would notifications be meaningfully different from these? I think the proof of Apple’s level of care is in their lack of attention to this issue.

> How would notifications be meaningfully different from these?

Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly,

vs

cold storage of secrets your architecture owns from start to finish.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Apple can store the sms/iMessage, and email history, and health/journal history, and my Wallet payment history, in a safe manner I would think Apple can store notification history in a safe manner. How would notifications be meaningfully different from these? I think the proof of Apple’s level of care is in their lack of attention to this issue.

> How would notifications be meaningfully different from these? Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly, vs cold storage of secrets your architecture owns from start to finish.

> Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly

This is a good description of SMS and RCS.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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that is most of the EU legislation making/operating companies, getting access to banking, hiring, etc.. all those things are catered towards multinationals by endless bureaucracy and requirements that need consultants/lawyers it's by design

At the same time there are plenty of European companies, so clearly the increased barriers aren't a deal breaker.

so you think if there were barriers then there would be no European companies or what?

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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> How would notifications be meaningfully different from these? Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly, vs cold storage of secrets your architecture owns from start to finish.

> Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly This is a good description of SMS and RCS.

and also a good description of Apple APN notifications being pushed to a Garmin watch,

or a car,

or your off-brand earbuds.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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post #112

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> Ephemeral transit layer owned by third-parties constantly This is a good description of SMS and RCS.

and also a good description of Apple APN notifications being pushed to a Garmin watch, or a car, or your off-brand earbuds.

Which, again, is not meaningfully different. Yet it seems you insinuated so. Can you explain in detail?

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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That’s pre-Snowden

Nothing has changed post-Snowden, other than that the general public have gone back into a state of apathy on the subject of reigning in their out of control surveillance state.

I didn’t say anything has changed, the 2010 example he mentioned is pre Snowden.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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Would lockdown mode on iOS stop this?

Probably, that's the point of it, however your smartphone becomes a very dumbphone in lockdown mode, intentionally to reduce attack surface. It's only really practical if you just need a dumb phone system endpoint to send and receive SMS and PSTN calls and check the time.

I keep my phone in lockdown mode and haven’t noticed too many problems day-to-day.

A few minor inconveniences (webGL doesn’t work, the magic automatic code from SMS keyboard integration is gone, etc.) but overall the phone is still a smart phone.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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Yes, the US has an intelligence agency called the NSA, which works with intelligence agencies in the five eyes. There is something called the five eyes agreement that does draw that line.

> There is something called the five eyes agreement that does draw that line. Believe such nonsense at your own peril. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_espionage_in_the_Unite... > In 1951, Mossad and the Central Intelligence Agency agreed not to spy on each other and US and Israeli services cooperated closely since then. > Nevertheless, there were strong indications afterwards of ongoing Israeli espionage agains…

I'm curious what peril your cynicism about the five eyes agreement has saved you from.
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