I've noticed that cooking with gas is easily the worst thing for CO2 levels. Even with lots of ventilation my kitchen will hover around 1200ppm until it's over with. I swear I can feel the 430ppm already. I was born into a world with 340ppm. I can't imagine what it's going to be like when we hit 500+ globally. I'm in the market for an active CO2 scrubbing solution that I could deploy at home. Scrubbing the entire pla…
The bottleneck might be the air in the room
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Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room
#282That article's message is spot on. If your CO2 levels are that high then you should fix the HVAC system and get it up to code or lobby for fixing the code. In many countries, a full air exchange in any office space every X hours is mandatory. In other countries that's optional and they need to get their act together.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
If that’s the sole source and the application does thoughtful analysis it could determine that there are sections of the room that are better than others, yes
But realistically, using what sensors? And (maybe less realistically) what if the theater puts 5 Apple sensors inside a sealed CO2-free chamber, spread around the room?
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Oxygen sensors used in car catalyst systems use a different effect based on electrochemistry. I see no reason that couldn't be minuaritized to grain-of-sand size. The question is if oxygen levels are as good an indicator as CO2 levels... I suspect not.
Based on numbers, O2 concentration is probably not a good indicator. Clean air contains about 20.9% O2 and 0.04% CO2. At 2000 ppm CO2, which according to the author is bad enough to impair judgement, that's 0.2% CO2, it that CO2 is the result of respiration, it means that about 0.2% O2 was consumed, so that's a drop from 20.9% to 20.7%, a very small difference. 20.7% is not low enough to have a significant effect, th…
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There are so many rooms, classrooms, movie theaters and other places with poor ventilation where you just feel dizzy, or fall asleep, not knowing it was just due to lower oxygen levels in your blood. Raising awareness is the only real solution. Not wrong, but it is perhaps worth noting that there are already standards for proper ventilation. Generally you're looking at 5–10 cfm/person (2.5-5 L/s), depending on the…
I think modern domestic houses its the opposite. At least in Netherlands insulation is such a strong focus, due to climate change I think, that modern appartments have terrible ventilation
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
But realistically, using what sensors? And (maybe less realistically) what if the theater puts 5 Apple sensors inside a sealed CO2-free chamber, spread around the room?
That’s the point of this thread that each device would have a small sensor that would sync and aggregate with others in the room
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure that in a room where we replaced nitrogen with co2, we would be dead even if O2 concentrations were the same. Something about partial pressure. I notice AI explanations agree with me (not going to copy and paste them).
EDIT: ignore this; I was confused / misinformed It's about pH. CO2 creates carbonic acid when it dissolves in water. Your blood pH, in turn, controls how much you feel like you need to breathe. So with high CO2, your respiration rate slows down, and that can lead to low oxygen levels. Note that the physiology and biochemistry of this is complicated (e.g. blood is a very good pH buffer and it's actively regulated by k…
It was the first time that I heard about them. These basically never happen if your body and environment are halfway decent, but they are important in exceptional situations.
Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room
#289I really wish a Apple or another major OEM would integrate CO2 monitor into watches or smartphones. Suddenly, everybody would be aware of the CO2 level in the room, get alerts, etc. and the problem will just solve itself. There are so many rooms, classrooms, movie theaters and other places with poor ventilation where you just feel dizzy, or fall asleep, not knowing it was just due to lower oxygen levels in your blood…
I think the issue is that the common tech requires sensors in an air-chamber. E.g. NDIR works by firing IR at a frequency that is absorbed by CO2. A sensor on the other side either measures the amount of IR light that got through (optical NDIR) or pressure/sound waves (photoacoustic NDIR). I guess that it's hard to use any existing sensors, because they are relatively large and probably water could easily get into th…
Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room
#290I bought a $30 CO2 monitor a couple months ago, and it confirmed my suspicion that my home office (a normal room about 12' x 18') reaches unhealthy levels over 1000ppm after just a few hours; opening a window quickly restores levels to the 400-700ppm range. Afternoon mental fatigue solved. Highly recommended.