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#41

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I don’t understand what these comments add to the discussion, you always see these and it’s just noise at this point.

They add nothing, meaningless anecdotes. I was kind of riffing on that.

So you added BS, on purpose? There is nothing meaningless about anecdotes. The plural is data

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post #5

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For now, I can use Fable from the web just fine. > You're not likely to want to run Fable in a loop any more than you want to take a bunch of dollar bills and light them on fire. Every invocation of Fable has to be intentional, its context carefully managed. Eh, that's just because it's the current frontier model. Give it a few weeks, and prices will drop.

API prices are the new normal. I doubt that prices will drop to the level of the subsidized subscriptions any time soon. Usage is growing exponentially but capacity cannot. There is no reason for them to waste their capacity on subscription users if they can sell that same capacity to API users. Like with Uber and Lyft, the low prices were a fight for market share, but now they have successfully captured that market…

I suspect subscriptions will stay. But you will see more and more roadblocks that the 'barely goes to the gym' user barely notices, but that the power user will chafe under.

I make that prediction, because the people who pay for subscriptions but only use them moderately at best are truly profitable.

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#43

I'd like to highlight a different part of the article: > In general, when I talk to software folks about testing, I'm coming from such a different place that they immediately look at me like I'm an alien, so let's talk about how we tested at this hardware company I worked for, Centaur, which informs my biases about how I like to work. Some of the things that we did that were or are unorthodox in the software world ar…

The first thing I started wondering was "is this the same Centaur that comes up as 'CentaurHauls' on a CPUID (EAX=0)?"

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#44

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Yeah I was like “woa a PGConf on the galapagos, i gotta get my ass to one if those!”

Realizing he's just using it to mean remote place in terms of AI bubble (Vancouver! What does that make all the other places that are not major tech hubs?) was a bummer. Who cares about AI, I wanted to read about living in Galapagos

I'm saddened to have gotten this far and had my bubble burst, I legitimately thought someone was on the real GI's and was able to compose such a treatise, nevertheless.

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post #43

I'd like to highlight a different part of the article: > In general, when I talk to software folks about testing, I'm coming from such a different place that they immediately look at me like I'm an alien, so let's talk about how we tested at this hardware company I worked for, Centaur, which informs my biases about how I like to work. Some of the things that we did that were or are unorthodox in the software world ar…

The first thing I started wondering was "is this the same Centaur that comes up as 'CentaurHauls' on a CPUID (EAX=0)?"

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And I've been quite impressed. Opus talks the talk, Fable walks the walk.

I don’t understand what these comments add to the discussion, you always see these and it’s just noise at this point.

Yeah come on, if these endless dialectic statements get made, at least post more detailed information about how your position was attained.

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#49
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Fable changes the game yet again, because it's API-only. You're not likely to want to run Fable in a loop any more than you want to take a bunch of dollar bills and light them on fire. Every invocation of Fable has to be intentional, its context carefully managed. I feel like a babysitter.

I just had Fable run overnight in a loop, and it fixed ~150 compiler crashing bugs that Opus had kept deferring.

I wouldn't start with Fable - when I use burndown loops I tend to include instructions to document progress and set aside anything that turns out to be harder than expected, and solve the easy stuff first. When a model runs out of easy stuff and start struggling to make progress on what is left, I can let it keep churning on that - they get there eventually - or I can bump it up to a smarter model if one is available.

Opus had churned a week driving down spec failures, and did a great job. The 150 Fable took overnight were the ones Opus had kept putting aside.

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#50
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OP's alt text makes it clear that by "Galapagos Island" they mean Vancouver. I assumed that this was some sort of local nickname, but all of the references to "Galápagos of Canada" I could find are talking about Haida Gwaii instead.

I think it’s just a metaphor for being isolated from the wider tech community.
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