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David Beazley – Programming Courses

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Re: David Beazley – Programming Courses

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Post by g42gregory »

jdw64 wrote: post #2

Seeing even these experienced professionals quit teaching programming, it seems like AI has had a big impact on the education market

I do not think this is actually AI: currently, there is a narrative (gradually dying out) that AI will replace software engineers and you don't need CS/Software Engineering education as a result. It's the "leaders" who listen to this.

Will change back in 12 - 24 months.

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Post by Exoristos »

"It's sad, but true. The courses that I used to offer here have to come to end. ... Honestly, I thought I might be teaching these courses into my retirement, but the enrollment numbers don't lie. Since 2023, there has been a complete collapse in the market for continuing education."

Personally, I'm finding this kind of story lately shocking and heartbreaking.

Re: David Beazley – Programming Courses

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Post by al_borland »

g42gregory wrote: post #3
jdw64 wrote: post #2

Seeing even these experienced professionals quit teaching programming, it seems like AI has had a big impact on the education market

I do not think this is actually AI: currently, there is a narrative (gradually dying out) that AI will replace software engineers and you don't need CS/Software Engineering education as a result. It's the "leaders" who listen to this. Will change back in 12 - 24 months.

Agreed, it seems like really short-term thinking.

People still learn math, despite the calculator existing. Accounts still learn accounting, despite Excel and accounting software existing.

If/when it does change in 12-24 months, I think companies need to take a serious look at the people in these “leadership” positions. If the quality of their thinking on big things like this is that bad, and so easily swayed by marketing and hype, then they don’t seem qualified for the positions they’re in.

Re: David Beazley – Programming Courses

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Post by Frannky »

I think that even if you will never code, it will teach you how to think—especially if you also learn math, stats, and other engineering courses.

You start to see patterns that let you understand what input leads to what output, and so to organize your actions in a way that will generate preferred outcomes.

Re: David Beazley – Programming Courses

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Post by jdw64 »

g42gregory wrote: post #3
jdw64 wrote: post #2

Seeing even these experienced professionals quit teaching programming, it seems like AI has had a big impact on the education market

I do not think this is actually AI: currently, there is a narrative (gradually dying out) that AI will replace software engineers and you don't need CS/Software Engineering education as a result. It's the "leaders" who listen to this. Will change back in 12 - 24 months.

There are points I agree with and points I don't.

What I agree with is that things will come back around in 12 to 24 months.

What I don't agree with is that I also consider this to be AI.

In fact, when you use AI, the stratification of input is very clear. In the end, even in software engineering, the quality of what AI produces depends heavily on how you prompt it. And there's no way around it—AI will inevitably do better than most people. It's pointless to say to an encyclopedia, 'I know more than you.' For a human to beat AI, the only way is to dig deeper into the latest technologies, but that's something only scholars who are up to date with cutting-edge academic trends can do. Most ordinary people won't be able to win against it.

However, I think software engineering will continue to exist. The reason is the stratification of input. In the end, software skills might become something like a subset selection technique for prompting within a specific domain.

Re: David Beazley – Programming Courses

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Post by camdenreslink »

g42gregory wrote: post #3
jdw64 wrote: post #2

Seeing even these experienced professionals quit teaching programming, it seems like AI has had a big impact on the education market

I do not think this is actually AI: currently, there is a narrative (gradually dying out) that AI will replace software engineers and you don't need CS/Software Engineering education as a result. It's the "leaders" who listen to this. Will change back in 12 - 24 months.

I wonder about his marketing channels. If it was primarily SEO, that has taken a huge hit especially for programming related searches since AI answers showed up at the top of the SERP.
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