A person who has something to say often has trouble stopping writing. Outsourcing writing to AI then feels like the opposite, as if the author doesn't care but wants to just spew some content.
Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
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Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well let's say that is true, and we do teach a class of kids how to use AI, how much of that will still be applicable by the time they enter the work force?
The bits about learning to communicate in clear and unambiguous way, having a skeptical ear and knowing when to double-check information that is being presented to them, and understanding how to use tools in a way that enhance their own learning should ideally last a lifetime.
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#83After some debate, we drew a line separating mechanical churning from actual thinking. Automating repetitive tasks or literature searches was acceptable. Was there any possibility of this not being the case? Rules which are not enforceable do not exist. If it's any part of the process you can't check, students are going to do it in the easiest way possible.
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#84Unfortunately that’s not how it works…
Long ago, WordPerfect’s grammar checker showed me my writing flaws and helped me improve.
Pasting a poorly written report and getting a dramatically restructured report wouldn’t be as instructive, even if the final result looked “better”.
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#85The older I get the more I realize “moderation in everything” is the key to success and happiness. Moderation in the sense of using or consuming something to only a certain degree. In this case, education, the answer is in the middle. It’s exploring and utilizing new tools while ensuring the base foundation of education. It’s really simple. Apply “moderation” to nearly any facet of your life and it’s probably the cor…
Moderation in fentanyl, too? Some habits are arguably just vices, that have few justifiable middle grounds.
Perhaps try looking up the thing you are talking about before making a moral judgement based on mass media soundbites.
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#86The older I get the more I realize “moderation in everything” is the key to success and happiness. Moderation in the sense of using or consuming something to only a certain degree. In this case, education, the answer is in the middle. It’s exploring and utilizing new tools while ensuring the base foundation of education. It’s really simple. Apply “moderation” to nearly any facet of your life and it’s probably the cor…
Moderation in fentanyl, too? Some habits are arguably just vices, that have few justifiable middle grounds.
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just be wary that you might not like the middle ground between a serial killer and someone wbo insists all human life is sacred.
There’s no middle ground, just that the serial killers and the people who insist that all human life is sacred are both destructive assuming that the sacred lifers take it to the extreme(i.e. try to force all resources and politics into saving all life whatever it takes).
Some people are not redeemable. Abolishing the death penalty is a mistake.
Another even less controversial example is providing adults and elderly euthanasia under certain circumstances.
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s no middle ground, just that the serial killers and the people who insist that all human life is sacred are both destructive assuming that the sacred lifers take it to the extreme(i.e. try to force all resources and politics into saving all life whatever it takes).
An imo even better example is death penalty. Some people are not redeemable. Abolishing the death penalty is a mistake. Another even less controversial example is providing adults and elderly euthanasia under certain circumstances.
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fentanyl is used in hospitals for pain management, so yes.
Moderation in recreational fentanyl then?
Re: Instead of banning AI, I made a classroom contract with my students
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would you do instead to make sure the student actually possesses the skills they are intended to have learned by the end of a program?
A variety of performance assessments more similar to commercial pursuits. Group projects with tangible artifacts, including finished prototypes that meet objectives. More emphasis on group projects. If AI accelerates productive development like with software, move the objectives up the ladder in complexity, or expectations. Peer assessments and performance reviews like employment . This also helps prepare students fo…
The problem is that the purpose of group projects is (besides practicing programming) to facilitate learning together, splitting tasks, discussing approaches, presenting the outcome. Doing these requires understanding what's going on, and if you just vibe code everything you don't have enough knowledge to experience the soft-skill parts of the work.