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Espionage Against the European Parliament

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Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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One interesting thing here, is they imply that both confidential personal medical information and confidential gov docs might have been compromised via the same phone.

Does EU parliment not have a policy of seperating work and personal devices?

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post #21

One interesting thing here, is they imply that both confidential personal medical information and confidential gov docs might have been compromised via the same phone. Does EU parliment not have a policy of seperating work and personal devices?

Having a policy and what happens in the real world are most of the time very different things (Understandably, as the line between work and personal time is often blurry).

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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"he did not recall receiving the Apple notifications" so he didn't notice them.

Could those have been intercepted or suppressed somehow?

It's possible, if the attacker controls the device enough. I don't think a big "you're being targeted" warning is something you don't notice, or forget.

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>> Further validating our finding of targeting, our forensic analysis shows Kouloglou received multiple Apple threat notifications about targeting with mercenary spyware on three occasions: March 2, 2023, August 29, 2023, and April 10, 2024. It is important to note that threat notifications from Apple and other companies are not real-time alerts. They are typically sent to users in batches, often months or more after…

"he did not recall receiving the Apple notifications" so he didn't notice them.

That is kind of surprising given he is on the comittee investigating pegasus. I'd assume someone on the comittee would be paying much more attention to this than a normal person.

I wonder what triggered him to suspect he was hacked then. Since presumably something triggered him to have his phone forensically investigated.

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>> Further validating our finding of targeting, our forensic analysis shows Kouloglou received multiple Apple threat notifications about targeting with mercenary spyware on three occasions: March 2, 2023, August 29, 2023, and April 10, 2024. It is important to note that threat notifications from Apple and other companies are not real-time alerts. They are typically sent to users in batches, often months or more after…

I mean his device was pwnd completely. Its not a stretch that attempts to warn are suppressed. That or he didn't notice or could have assumed the notice itself was one of many phishing attempts against large orgs. If I saw a notification that my account was compromised by Pegasus I'd personally assume phishing.

Kouloglou is a famous investigative journalist, not you and me. Yes you and I might think we're being scammed, but someone who actually spent a lot of their life getting death threats probably would pay more attention.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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Not quite surprising. The more important question is: how much are lobbyists paid to sell out data of EU citizens to US corporations here? Will they prevail? There is enough money to go around for certain.

It feels like they've been paid to sell out the users themselves, not just the data. It's weird that EU is so dependant on US tech when it comes to media platforms... While there are alternatives out there. In a lot of related areas in tech, it feels like suppression.

This might be taken as hyperbolic, but the EU seems to have trouble building anything.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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post #21

One interesting thing here, is they imply that both confidential personal medical information and confidential gov docs might have been compromised via the same phone. Does EU parliment not have a policy of seperating work and personal devices?

Having a policy and what happens in the real world are most of the time very different things (Understandably, as the line between work and personal time is often blurry).

True but one would hope though that people dealing with national security would follow more than your average employee.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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Around that time a lot of politicians in Greece had their phones hacked by Pegasus. It's an ongoing scandal in Greece that never got fully resolved, although all evidence indicate that it was an operation orchestrated by the office of the prime minister in coordination with the local intelligence service. So I wouldn't call that an attack against the European parliament.

Same story in Poland:

https://notesfrompoland.com/2026/02/26/poland-charges-former...

Everything looks like a nail if you have a hammer.

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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That seems to be the case, although he claims to have somehow missed them. Overall this is one of those stories that's obviously an outrage, except for the fact that every country on Earth spies on the rest, and quite a few private entities do as well. Still the way the game is played if you get caught you have to act ashamed, and the people catching you get to gloat. It's silly, but it's a show the public never tire…

The US does not spy on Five Eyes government leadership or that of Israel. And perhaps more: in the wake of Snowden, which obliterated many diplomatic relationships the U.S. has with other countries, Obama issued a directive that the U.S. would not monitor heads of state and government of close friends and allies (even outside Five Eyes) unless there was a compelling national security reason. As far as we know that di…

US does spy on Five Eyes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_espionage_in_Aus...

"In December 2010, leaked US diplomatic cables indicated senior New Zealand Defence Ministry officials had been spying for the United States, secretly briefing the United States embassy on Cabinet discussions about the Iraq War."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_espionage_in_New_Zeala...

Re: Espionage Against the European Parliament

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I mean his device was pwnd completely. Its not a stretch that attempts to warn are suppressed. That or he didn't notice or could have assumed the notice itself was one of many phishing attempts against large orgs. If I saw a notification that my account was compromised by Pegasus I'd personally assume phishing.

Kouloglou is a famous investigative journalist, not you and me. Yes you and I might think we're being scammed, but someone who actually spent a lot of their life getting death threats probably would pay more attention.

Fairly sure that if anybody using a advanced piece of hacking software, they are also going to delete any messages that are related to detection of such hardware.

PC viruses used to do that stuff going back so many years ago. Suppressing any notification under Windows, by disabling the AV software, its notifications, windows notifications related to it.

So it will amaze me that this is not done by any modern espionage software. Especially as the notification methods are known. Given that his device is hacked, that means a lot of avenues are under control of the espionage software. Even mails etc ... So impersonating the end user, to confirm they read a warning, is extreme easy.

I find it rather odd that people are so fixated on the idea if Kouloglou read it or not.

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