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America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Practical communication is not an exercise in logical deduction. The meaning of those terms is not equivalent for exactly the reason you noted.

obviously you can use much to mean little with a how in front but generally with a little snarky aside like ", which is not much at all," after the "how much", but yes, in typical usage they are not interpreted the same, although I'd say the difference really only becomes important in comparative usage as in "how little for how much" and similar examples. on edit: took out hows to avoid confusion.

"Surprised by how much" pretty directly means the amount is higher than expected. It has the opposite meaning the person intended. The neutral phrasing would be more like "surprised by the amount".

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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You're a 26 year old in 1926. You're part of what history would later call the Greatest Generation. You will suffer through both the Great Depression and World War II. Perhaps due to those experiences, you will be the only generation that votes more left as you age.

If you were born in 1900 you probably are at the tail end of the Lost Generation — the Greatest Generation is considered to be those born between 1901 and 1927. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Generation

They started the report in 1929 and completed it in 1933. Easy enough to just tweak the year slightly to fit the stated generation.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

#154

You're a 26 year old in 1926. You're part of what history would later call the Greatest Generation. You will suffer through both the Great Depression and World War II. Perhaps due to those experiences, you will be the only generation that votes more left as you age.

> Perhaps due to those experiences, you will be the only generation that votes more left as you age.

They grew up in an era when various flavors of communism were serious considerations and they saw state power "save the world". Of course they couldn't get enough of it after that.

One kind of wonders if that sort of automatic deference to group (government and otherwise) solutions which they very much passed onto their huge numbers of kids is actually what undid the quality of those institutions.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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post #152

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obviously you can use much to mean little with a how in front but generally with a little snarky aside like ", which is not much at all," after the "how much", but yes, in typical usage they are not interpreted the same, although I'd say the difference really only becomes important in comparative usage as in "how little for how much" and similar examples. on edit: took out hows to avoid confusion.

"Surprised by how much" pretty directly means the amount is higher than expected. It has the opposite meaning the person intended. The neutral phrasing would be more like "surprised by the amount".

"vaccines cause autism"

"well, I'm certainly surprised by how much you know, good day."

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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No offense but outside of money does the US have anything going for it?

Ask those returning home from world cup visits. They'll be in the best position to compare to their home country.

I love that I got downvoted above for literally suggesting they ask someone who was recently in America for their opinion as to what America has to offer.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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post #152

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"Surprised by how much" pretty directly means the amount is higher than expected. It has the opposite meaning the person intended. The neutral phrasing would be more like "surprised by the amount".

"vaccines cause autism" "well, I'm certainly surprised by how much you know, good day."

I laughed but I think that example undermines your own point. I read "how much" in that context as dripping sarcasm.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Meh, seems he's using arbitrary metrics to make arbitrary claims (which is fine). But to just state that "Life is so much better in 2026 than in 1926 for Americans" is obviously a pretty nebulous statement. It's like saying "Beaches in 2026 are so much better than beaches in 1926". Sure you could cherry-pick some metrics to make the case, and someone else could cherry-pick metrics to make the opposite case. Sort've a…

> But to just state that "Life is so much better in 2026 than in 1926 for Americans" is obviously a pretty nebulous statement. Given that there was no antibiotics in 1926, no chemotherapy or radiation therapy for cancer, no public pensions (so good luck getting old), hardly any indoor plumbing (even by 1940 it was about half), I think life is much better now that one hundred years ago. What were infant mortality rate…

AC existed but was barely used until at least a decade or two later (window units invented in the 30s and full-home central AC in the 50s).

One of the current social media trends is Europeans discovering what the US is actually like, having come here for the World Cup. A lot of them have apparently never experienced AC before and it's one of the major focuses in these clips for how life-changing it is.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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post #93

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I can do the same within the EU, what difference are you pointing at?

I moved to Spain from The Netherlands as a Dutch citizen. It was a lot of paperwork, lots of planning, needed close to €10k in my bank account and needed to get private healthcare with a pretty serious health check. I had to do multiple trips to the national police office and municipalities. That is not needed when you switch states in the US. You just need to update your address and tax records. You do not needed to…

That’s surprising, I only had to announce my departure, arrival, and switch my insurance when moving between countries in the EU

Edit: looking into it I see that Spain has a more complicated process, indeed. thanks for the info, I didn’t know, I will need to read more about it

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Again, "the left" is not a homogeneous entity. When talking about "the left" we should look at the left's coalition. We don't really have significant party platforms anymore, but I can assure you "rent control" would not get passed by the Democratic Party coalition in the House of Representatives right now, much less the Senate. Associating a political coalition with their most extreme or noisy members is counterprod…

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I don’t know about Washington State, but Oregon’s rent control is capped at 7% increases after inflation per year, which isn’t exactly stopping market forces.

Now, I agree with you that rent controls are bad, generally, but a system simply reasonably dampens real price increases, rather than eliminating them altogether is effectively a different kind of law. I don’t support it, but I think it’s reasonable.

That from one of the most progressive states in the nation. It’s not socialism.

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