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America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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“Left” doesn’t mean socialism. In the long run, it comes out of the enlightenment period, quite literally. Traditionally, the left is associated with small “L” liberalism, and the right is associated with small “C” conservatism. Generally speaking, it has been a historic debate between whether the “natural” way things are is good and prudent (e.g., monarchs, religion, castes, roles, and norms), or if the way things a…

It's confusing because different people mean different things when using political terms. The political compass ( https://www.politicalcompass.org ) has two axes: left-right and libertarian-authoritarian. On it, socialists are definitely left wing (and communists far left), regardless of what the left/right wing meant at the time of the French Revolution.

I’m trying to keep things simple in terms of left vs right.

Yes, the reality of politics is that they are highly multipolar. The political compass is useful, but maintaining only two axes is wildly simplistic.

Moral Foundations Theory suggests there are five axes for political views. I think this theory is one of the best for explanatory power, but is still limited: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory

Suffices to say, if we look at politics through a two party, first past the post framework, I still think small letter conservatism vs liberalism is the best frame, simply because it is vague enough to be used generally.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Personally, I think GenX are the lost. (I'm a late GenX) Our colleages took the brunt of the global war on terror, and because we entered the workforce at the peak boomer pivot away from the pre-Internet era of business those of us that were in the corporate/government workforce were basically stuck waiting for people to die to move up. We're the people who got computers and internet in a way that neither our elders…

I don’t know any millennials who are inheriting anything. Everyone’s boomer parents who inherited family wealth are either losing it to healthcare costs extracting everything at their end of life or (literally in at least one friends case) saying “you can’t take it with you” and burning the family wealth on luxuries while their kids struggle. Maybe there’s a handful of ultra wealthy families tending the family wealth…

Why leave wealth to generations that joblessly leech off their parents for decades and then refuse to reproduce?

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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How much and how little are logically equivalent, although in vernacular usage it is of course common to use how little when implying the amount is less than one might expect, and how much to imply the amount is more than one might expect.

Practical communication is not an exercise in logical deduction. The meaning of those terms is not equivalent for exactly the reason you noted.

obviously you can use much to mean little with a how in front but generally with a little snarky aside like ", which is not much at all," after the "how much", but yes, in typical usage they are not interpreted the same, although I'd say the difference really only becomes important in comparative usage as in "how little for how much" and similar examples.

on edit: took out hows to avoid confusion.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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The water is drinkable but in many places not what I would call tasty.

Water tastes pretty gross in coastal Spain. In countries like Albania I wouldn’t even drink it at all. On Greek islands it is safe but everyone buys water from the stores. Due to the age of many places in Europe there is also still a lot of copper pipe used for tap water. Not deadly but also not very healthy. In Amsterdam over 20 percent of homes have copper pipes.

I'm confused, you're saying that copper piping is not healthy for water lines? Any info you could help link to?

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Is this some sort of a paid advertising piece, to make you feel better about inflation, lack of affordable medical care, lack of affordable housing, lack of jobs for recent graduates, etc...? "Life is much better in 2026. We live healthier, richer, and longer lives, with better medicine and more self-determination." - I can't speak for 1926, but compared to 1980s or 1960s, this is so patently not true. The US populat…

People smoke a lot less. We have antibiotics. Life expectancy is up.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Again, "the left" is not a homogeneous entity. When talking about "the left" we should look at the left's coalition. We don't really have significant party platforms anymore, but I can assure you "rent control" would not get passed by the Democratic Party coalition in the House of Representatives right now, much less the Senate. Associating a political coalition with their most extreme or noisy members is counterprod…

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Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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Water tastes pretty gross in coastal Spain. In countries like Albania I wouldn’t even drink it at all. On Greek islands it is safe but everyone buys water from the stores. Due to the age of many places in Europe there is also still a lot of copper pipe used for tap water. Not deadly but also not very healthy. In Amsterdam over 20 percent of homes have copper pipes.

I'm confused, you're saying that copper piping is not healthy for water lines? Any info you could help link to?

Apologies, I meant lead pipes. Plenty of pre-war homes have lead pipes.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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> Perhaps due to those experiences, you will be the only generation that votes more left as you age. I doubt it. My dad lived through the Great Depression, and fought desperate battles in WW2 and Korea. As a young man, he was a socialist. His experience in fighting for American freedoms changed all that. Before he passed, he told me he regretted leaving me in a country that was significantly less free than when he wa…

In 1994, the Greatest Generation voted D+7, higher than any other generational cohort. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2015/04/30/a-different-...

Democrats in 1994 were a very different proposition when compared to today. They had the union vote locked up, and the greatest generation benefited greatly from unions.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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LBJ's "Great Society" programs still exist and are greatly expanded. The scope of federal entitlements have steadily expanded. And there are strident calls for Medicare for all. Have you not noticed the recent elections of Democrat Socialists, and the Democrat leaders are endorsing them? This was unthinkable just a few years ago. The Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act are not socialism. I am not sure the VRA has…

And none of those things are a move leftward, simply a return to FDR's Democratic Party, where universal healthcare and equal rights first had a chance of passing. That a handful of democratic nominees (most of the Democratic Socialists you allude to simply won their primaries, they aren't in power yet) are on the ballot for the first time demonstrates that the party itself has, in fact, moved rightward, as they woul…

> And none of those things are a move leftward

Endorsing and electing Democrat Socialists is not a move leftward?

Sanders, AOC, Jayapal, Mandami, Katie Wilson, Bass, etc., are already elected and in power.

> Ensuring equal rights with the CRA and VRA wasn't socialism (which is largely an economic framework, not political), but it was certainly a move to left.

No, it was not a move left.

Re: America, 1926: A forgotten 100-year-old report

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I'm shocked how much the average American knows about how things work. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. I'm not surprised how quickly Americans are giving up their liberty.

46% dont even know what America 250 is... Worse 61% of https://www.cato.org/blog/gen-z-fails-basic-civics-quiz-amer... a gross percent can't name the 3 branches or their Reps.

For the non-Americans in the room, is "America 250" anything other than the 250th anniversary of the war of independence?
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