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International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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For those who don't follow chess, what were the allegations? This article is intentionally vague on all the details.

I’m not a follower either, but inference from the article tells me: Krammik has come up with some sort of cheat detection method, has loudly accused some others of cheating, and FIDE are both unconvinced of the truth of the allegations and very unhappy he didn’t do this through proper channels. He also doesn’t appear to have co-operated with the investigation.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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That’s a lot of words to say very little. What is this about?

Kramnik has a habit of accusing people of cheating without evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kramnik#Anti-cheating..., he has also done this to many many individuals without evidence (and cheating is taken very seriously), this is in connection to that - he's being penalized for accusing people (repeatedly) without evidence.

Just to be clear – this is an event where he has been doing so repeatedly, accusing people of cheating without evidence in-and-of itself isn't forbidden - since cheating in chess is difficult to verify, it's the manner and fashion to which Kramnik has done this that has led to his suspension

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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post #4
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For those who don't follow chess, what were the allegations? This article is intentionally vague on all the details.

I’m not a follower either, but inference from the article tells me: Krammik has come up with some sort of cheat detection method, has loudly accused some others of cheating, and FIDE are both unconvinced of the truth of the allegations and very unhappy he didn’t do this through proper channels. He also doesn’t appear to have co-operated with the investigation.

one of the players he persistently harassed, Daniel Naroditsky, ended up dying, which surely gave an extra push

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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For those who don't follow chess, what were the allegations? This article is intentionally vague on all the details.

He posted mathematically unsound methods that accused online players of cheating. Including Naroditsky, who is no longer with us (draw your own conclusions).

This is a case of a Kramnik being a crank whom most people did not take seriously, but he still had an impact on the victims.

Fro Kramnik this is a mild penalty.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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So Kramnik, being a chess player and not a statistician, invented various methods of "detecting" cheating which seemed convincing for for a layman but questionable mathematically.

Then he started attacking Daniel, Hikaru and some other players online. This all led to pretty tragic consequences.

Kramnik still believes that he's in the right.

The only good thing out of this is numerous funny videos by chess players trying to figure out intricacies of statistics and math.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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That’s a lot of words to say very little. What is this about?

Kramnik has a habit of accusing people of cheating without evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kramnik#Anti-cheating... , he has also done this to many many individuals without evidence (and cheating is taken very seriously), this is in connection to that - he's being penalized for accusing people (repeatedly) without evidence. Just to be clear – this is an event where he has been doing so repeatedly, acc…

Thank you for the link. Chess is very much also a psychological game and that he resorts to such low blows is really petty.
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