Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

Post by phoghed » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 4:45 PM UTC

matheusmoreira wrote: post #171

phoghed wrote: post #165

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So you believe a dude was wrongly punished, and to you justice would be for everyone else to also be wrongly punished? Kind of dumb tbh

My mind is not capable of the cognitive dissonance necessary to accept that billionaires get a slap on the wrist while mere mortals get police helicopters descending upon them. In order to maintain my mental health, I must have consistency. So either enforce the law the same way against everyone correctly and proportionally, or your law and its enforcement are illegitimate and shouldn't exist. If some activity is har…

Post by hnfong » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 4:47 PM UTC

atlasunshrugged wrote: post #213

type0 wrote: post #209

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> even foreign companies competitive to key US companies. It's unfathomable to me that EU companies don't take the risk of industrial espionage from US more seriously

Not from China? One country has a recent track record of massive amounts of industrial espionage and one doesn't.

Post by fouc » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 4:55 PM UTC

jacobgold wrote: post #186

bhouston wrote: post #55

All remote AI are a massive security risk for individuals/companies/governments that may be targeted by the US government. It is likely that the US will get a live feed from each AI provider that they are inspecting in real time to identity things of interest, terrorist attacks or foreign government planning or even foreign companies competitive to key US companies. It will give them access to the though process in t…

> "Also if you are using local AI that you didn’t train yourself you can never be sure..." A local model you trained yourself seems about as good as you can do today. But it may not even be possible to fully trust a model you trained if you used untrusted data during training. As a user, you have to trust your coding agent AND inference provider AND models: https://jacob.gold/posts/coding-models-are-code/ https://www…

Post by hnfong » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 4:58 PM UTC

itake wrote: post #16

dgellow wrote: post #9

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Alibaba has engineers in Hongkong, Singapore, North America. It’s a global corporation

when i was in hongkong, chatgpt and gemini were disabled. Maybe this has changed though. When I was in China, the corporate vpn (zscaler) routed traffic through hk

Post by hnfong » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 5:00 PM UTC

bel8 wrote: post #21

feverzsj wrote: post #17

Considering their massive distillation, if US companies stop publishing new models to the public, would China still be able to develop new open weight models?

I don't think China would strugle to scrape the internet for fresh data. And they constantly publish state of the art LLM research (see DS4 context compaction and cache tech). They have very capable tech giants. So while not being able to distill western models would probably have some impact, it's probably becoming lesser as time passes. We might even see Western LLMs distilling Chinese models soon. If they aren't a…