It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by AndrewKemendo » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:37 PM UTC

runarberg wrote: post #16

an0malous wrote: post #4

You should add a parallel timeline of how many times AI CEOs have claimed their next model is too dangerous to release, AGI is months away, or some white collar job will be obsolete within 6 months. I don’t know anyone in the tech industry who thinks AGI will never happen or that software engineering and white collar jobs can’t be automated. We all read sci fi, you’re not some unique visionary for anticipating AI. Th…

You don’t know me, but I am in the tech industry and believe AGI will never happen. Albeit that is because I did a BSc in psychology where I developed a deep distrust for intelligence research and concluded that intelligence is not a useful term in philosophy nor science (and especially not in engineering).

What’s your definition of AGI?

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by shimman » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:37 PM UTC

lnenad wrote: post #10

an0malous wrote: post #4

You should add a parallel timeline of how many times AI CEOs have claimed their next model is too dangerous to release, AGI is months away, or some white collar job will be obsolete within 6 months. I don’t know anyone in the tech industry who thinks AGI will never happen or that software engineering and white collar jobs can’t be automated. We all read sci fi, you’re not some unique visionary for anticipating AI. Th…

Literally every CEO AI or otherwise claims bullshit about their product. It's their job. It's got nothing to do with people actually using something and not coming to terms with it having any value. If you've never seen a screwdriver it's a waste of time compared to nails.

It's their job to lie and defraud the public? Why don't you believe there shouldn't be consequences for lying and defrauding the public? Do you believe tech CEOs are above society and decency? Does their wealth make them immune from accountability?

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by suddenlybananas » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:37 PM UTC

overgard wrote: post #12

I'm having a hard time understanding what the writer is trying to accomplish with this (weird) post, especially the "IQ" part on the side (wtf?). Yes, the goal posts change as the technology changes (this is true of ALL technology), and it turns out that people keep underestimating with each release of this technology what it would actually take to replace a job.

What on earth does "IQ: Yes" mean at the end??

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by whateveracct » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:37 PM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #20

dwroberts wrote: post #5

> Call me when it stops making things up. We haven’t moved past this yet

I’m unaware of any humans that don’t have this error method also.

? in a professional setting, my coworkers are just randomly gonna make stuff up

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by Diogenesian » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:38 PM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #20

dwroberts wrote: post #5

> Call me when it stops making things up. We haven’t moved past this yet

I’m unaware of any humans that don’t have this error method also.

I am unaware of any healthy human who confabulates things as arbitrarily and disastrously as a SOTA reasoning model. It is childish to say stuff like "lawyers always made up court cases" - no they didn't!

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by hyperpape » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:39 PM UTC

Although it's not the most important thing here, I love the IQ badge on the right side of the screen. At IQ 200, the AI is finally qualified to carry a pager for production.

I'm in the pagerduty lineup, and shockingly, my IQ isn't even a mere 185.

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by ofjcihen » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:39 PM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #27

ofjcihen wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument style is always humorous. The intention is something like “so humans are as bad as AI” when the original question boils down to something like “why would I replace humans with AI?”.

The entire purpose of automation is to remove a capacity limited human from a continuous workflow because the workflow is more capably achieved with fewer errors than the human See: traffic lights

That’s a great explanation of automation.

If I have a choice between a deterministic traffic light and a non-deterministic traffic light which one would I use?

And yes, before you say “this isn’t a comparison of non deterministic and deterministic tools, this is a comparison of two non-deterministic tools” think about what my next question might be.

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by captainbland » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:39 PM UTC

cwbuilds wrote: post #9

blooalien wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Well, I can still ride a unicycle blindfolded better than a robot so it's not AGI." Can you though? I've seen some videos recently of some pretty darn scary Chinese robots that I suspect might already be capable of riding a unicycle blindfolded if someone set 'em on that task. ;)

I can't even ride a bike so I got AGI'd about a decade ago

Yeah this idea that the unique value proposition of humans is now our motor capabilities rather than our cognition is unnerving as someone with dyspraxia. Like, oh good, they've figured out how to convert it into a much more limiting disability by commoditising apparently most knowledge work. Great.

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by inigyou » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:40 PM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #31

runarberg wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t know me, but I am in the tech industry and believe AGI will never happen. Albeit that is because I did a BSc in psychology where I developed a deep distrust for intelligence research and concluded that intelligence is not a useful term in philosophy nor science (and especially not in engineering).

What’s your definition of AGI?

AGI is when an AI model can pass the Turing test. It was achieved with GPT-2.

Re: It Still Can't Do My Job: Four Years of Moving Goalposts (2022–2026)

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Post by jrflo » Fri, Jul 03, 2026, 3:40 PM UTC

dwroberts wrote: post #5

> Call me when it stops making things up. We haven’t moved past this yet

To be fair I think we'd be able to claim AGI is here if that problem is solved. At this point the models are so smart they're borderline super intelligent if they were cognizant of hallucinations and their own shortcomings. If GPT 5.5 or Opus 4.8 could tell you "I don't know" they'd certainly be "smarter" than any individual human. Some specialists might be better in niche domains, but I don't know of any humans who are experts at that level in every field.