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Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#151

This is useless because AI has nothing to do with intelligence. It's just software. You cannot ban local AI without banning local software which is obviously impossible. Possession of software, even software that can be used for illegal purpose such as RATs and other viruses isn't illegal.

There have been laws that control the distribution of software for decades.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#152

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You seem to be so sure, but lobbying in the US can do incredible (and stupid) things. Look at the 3d printing control laws that are being passed in NY

> 3d printing control laws that are being passed in NY The "don't print guns" laws? What lobby would that be? I actually agree that the US is very vulnerable to lobbying and that 3d printing restrictions are dumb, but I have no idea how you connected the two.

Check out Louis Rossman video https://youtu.be/E1B2cWEaWDw?si=njkPnZqd0NIz2i39

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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We're not going to go down the path of training a bunch of highly specialized models for tasks like "this tractor should tend this field". We're going to (and are already on the way to) train deeply general models that can be told: "go tend that field." And if that's the case, it no longer makes sense to build specialized, purpose-built tractors to house that level of autonomous capability. You instead put it in a hu…

And yet actual farmers veer toward Ag-bots - autonomous "tractors" that have no human driver and pull the same farming trailer that already exist - ploughs, seeding bars, spray bars, etc. The greater question centres about who will tend the machines - 4,000 hectares of seeding requires a week and more of prep work on the air seeder, hoses, points, tines, etc.

I would think that this is because those are what is currently available, and that this would change when actually capable humanoids start coming on to the market. It will become possible to re-use existing equipment (providing the largest uplift to farmers who haven't already begun the process of heavy automation, which is a lot of them when you look at a global scale). Humanoids will be more accessible than the bulking 8 ton autonomous "tractor".

Due to the scale of pre-training going on, it seems reasonable that a humanoid could also do a lot of the preliminary work you mentioned that currently is not (or rarely) automated.

On one hand I feel like I'm sure to catch some ridicule for saying any of this, on the other it seems like it is very obviously the direction we're headed.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#154

I don't know why people are so sure that Mythos level+ models will be made freely available. Obviously money is not freely distributed, so how could we possibly make the case that power will be? All that needs to happen is Xi Jinpeng feel that Chinese SOTA models would be better kept to benefit solely China, and just upon that single utterance, no more models will come out of China.

the music may stop in the future, but right now it isn't even slowing down.

Xi did not interfere when Chinese labs released GPT-4, o1, o3, etc level models. why draw the line at current SOTA that will be old news in a year?

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#155

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And this is exactly my point, the OEMs have more lobbying power and leverage. Anthropic might be valuated at whatever amount, but they're a new player and their only product is a piece of software - which others like Google, OpenAI, etc also have (not identical but similar enough). EDIT: FYI https://ibb.co/nMYP34Rr

And you think Google, one of the biggest cloud providers, Microsoft, etc. are going to be onboard with local LLMs? I don't think so

They'll do local LLMs you have to pay for. Best of both worlds: your LLM processing power will be locked behind a subscription.

You'll be coerced into a subscription to unlock the processing power you already have, and it'll only be usable by official Microsoft, etc implementations.

They get your money, get to control you, and best of all, they don't have to run it themselves in their data centers

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#156

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And this is exactly my point, the OEMs have more lobbying power and leverage. Anthropic might be valuated at whatever amount, but they're a new player and their only product is a piece of software - which others like Google, OpenAI, etc also have (not identical but similar enough). EDIT: FYI https://ibb.co/nMYP34Rr

And you think Google, one of the biggest cloud providers, Microsoft, etc. are going to be onboard with local LLMs? I don't think so

Google knows they will happen and even ships it with chrome.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#157

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And this is exactly my point, the OEMs have more lobbying power and leverage. Anthropic might be valuated at whatever amount, but they're a new player and their only product is a piece of software - which others like Google, OpenAI, etc also have (not identical but similar enough). EDIT: FYI https://ibb.co/nMYP34Rr

And you think Google, one of the biggest cloud providers, Microsoft, etc. are going to be onboard with local LLMs? I don't think so

Google ships a local LLM with chrome browser nowadays. Don't they also provide the weights for the LLM built into iOS and MacOS?

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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And yet actual farmers veer toward Ag-bots - autonomous "tractors" that have no human driver and pull the same farming trailer that already exist - ploughs, seeding bars, spray bars, etc. The greater question centres about who will tend the machines - 4,000 hectares of seeding requires a week and more of prep work on the air seeder, hoses, points, tines, etc.

I would think that this is because those are what is currently available, and that this would change when actually capable humanoids start coming on to the market. It will become possible to re-use existing equipment (providing the largest uplift to farmers who haven't already begun the process of heavy automation, which is a lot of them when you look at a global scale). Humanoids will be more accessible than the bul…

How much current and past direct hands on experience do you have with mining and agriculture?

The Rio Tinto plans for automated mining of the Resolution Copper deposit in the USofA don't revolve about "humanoid" figures sitting in seats made for humans.

Large acreage continuously producing near fully automated tomato greenhouses don't work with humanoid shaped automata - they have poles with cameras and shaking mechanisms for pollinating, etc.

It's a much simpler fighter jet that doesn't have to carry a human.

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