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Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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After they uploaded their code to private repositories on GitHub, Bitbucket etc since forever?. They trust GitHub not to read their code but they don't trust an AI from Microsoft not to read it? It would be schizophrenia

Big customers usually use GHE served on prem due to security concerns, no?

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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All remote AI are a massive security risk for individuals/companies/governments that may be targeted by the US government. It is likely that the US will get a live feed from each AI provider that they are inspecting in real time to identity things of interest, terrorist attacks or foreign government planning or even foreign companies competitive to key US companies. It will give them access to the though process in t…

Why make this u.s. centric? You think China served models would be different?

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me, did the AI companies redistribute that copyrighted material to others and make their money that way? Did Kim use the copyrighted material to generate something novel from it? copyright law literally says something isn’t infringement if it is a novel transformation. I get the jokes and criticism about AI companies fighting and complaining about competitors distilling, but this is a much weirder comparison.

This is confusing. I can torrent everything and do what I want with it, as long as I don't redistribute the exact same thing? If so, why do we still pay for games and movies?

No, that’s literally why Anthropic got sued. If they’d paid for a copy of the copyrighted works they pirated, they wouldn’t have had a problem. There were two issues in their case: does the AI infringe on copyright and did Anthropic obtain all their materials legally. The first they won on, the second they lost.

So if you pirate a bunch of content you still get in trouble for that. But if you somehow make a business out of that that isn’t just redistributing those materials, then that business itself isn’t infringing.

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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I got curious and asked my Chinese friends, and they gave me a Reddit link[1]. It looks like it's about location data collection, and they suggested that might be the reason for the issue. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ujila1/anthropic...

Wow and very websote on earth practically, collects locationvdata

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Can't say they are wrong, after the latest backdoor, or let's say, undocumented functionality that leaks some data that was pushed in Claude Code few days ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48759754

I think most websites transmit general locationbto the server.

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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All remote AI are a massive security risk for individuals/companies/governments that may be targeted by the US government. It is likely that the US will get a live feed from each AI provider that they are inspecting in real time to identity things of interest, terrorist attacks or foreign government planning or even foreign companies competitive to key US companies. It will give them access to the though process in t…

> you can never be sure it doesn’t have purposeful biases in its reasoning that may disadvantage you - such as directing you away from certain plans or ideas or patents etc.

that's why you should use abliterated heretic models

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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It's insane that it's becoming a concern now. It should've ended the discussion from the very beginning.

I mean, we all also still do manufacturing in China with a 100% guarantee that your widget will be copied and cloned. It's so much cheaper though....

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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All remote AI are a massive security risk for individuals/companies/governments that may be targeted by the US government. It is likely that the US will get a live feed from each AI provider that they are inspecting in real time to identity things of interest, terrorist attacks or foreign government planning or even foreign companies competitive to key US companies. It will give them access to the though process in t…

Why make this u.s. centric? You think China served models would be different?

China is releasing open weight models you can simply run yourself.

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

#209

All remote AI are a massive security risk for individuals/companies/governments that may be targeted by the US government. It is likely that the US will get a live feed from each AI provider that they are inspecting in real time to identity things of interest, terrorist attacks or foreign government planning or even foreign companies competitive to key US companies. It will give them access to the though process in t…

> even foreign companies competitive to key US companies.

It's unfathomable to me that EU companies don't take the risk of industrial espionage from US more seriously

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The target doesn't want to be distilled.

> The target doesn't want to be distilled. So? Fraudsters don't want to be jailed, their victims don't want to be scammed, employees don't want to be laid off, etc. What the target wants is irrelevant - what society wants as enforced by laws is what is relevant, and as the leading AI providers have demonstrated, simply grabbing other people's copyrighted stuff for learning purposes is perfectly fine! If they already…

I was only describing the difference not taking a side.
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