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Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Post by croes »

fridder wrote: post #74
stephc_int13 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zuckerberg was barely adult when he started Facebook. And he probably bumped into a few older guys who thought they knew better than him, and history proved them wrong. He likely developed some irrational belief that clever and young beats anything else, and saw an echo of his own bravado in Alexandr Wang. Turns out his heuristics were not calibrated properly.

Didn’t he famously trash folks over 30 years back? He has really done nothing innovative outside of ads.

What’s innovative about ads?

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Post by boelboel »

KaiserPro wrote: post #60

> I can’t tell if Zuckerberg is dimwitted or just evil. The problem during the first era of the AI boom (circa 2023) was indeed that Meta was too slow to identify the metaverse flub. Former meta wanker here. Its both. but also its the structure around Zuckerberg that makes it worse. First Zuckerberg only cares about tech, he doesn't care about product. he loves research, and he loves new things that can be done with…

So just bad governance and B-stocks giving zuck control forever meaning nothing will change? Great

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Post by arcatech »

postalrat wrote: post #69
goldenarm wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is AGI really inevitable ? Claiming something is inevitable is a great way to disarm critical thinking.

Give your arguments for it not being inevitable if you question it.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but I’ll answer. It’s not worth the (token) cost. It’s too inefficient. It’s brute-forcing solutions to problems by spending more and more tokens.

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Post by psvv »

basisword wrote: post #57
goldenarm wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is AGI really inevitable ? Claiming something is inevitable is a great way to disarm critical thinking.

AGI isn't necessary to completely change things. The change that's occurred in the last 6 months alone is massive. Another couple of big steps like the end of last year and the world is unrecognisable from even a few years ago.

What makes another couple big steps like that inevitable in a short time frame?

Before the recent floodgates cracked open, AI research made only slow incremental progress for decades. Why couldn't we already be back near that rate of progress?

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Post by mrits »

jordanb wrote: post #12
mrits wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, other than being the dominate social media platform for the original few years (2 decades) he is a total failure I guess

They maintained the 2 decades dominance by either knifing the baby (vine) or buying (Instagram, whatsapp) every upstart. The moment they couldn't do either they got their clock cleaned (tiktok)

Wow, that sounds super easy. Why didn't you do it?

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Post by overgard »

vladmk wrote: post #20

Seems like a lot of CEOs overestimated the speed of AI, but also it is inevitable.

AI requires trillions of dollars of investment to keep going because it can't turn a profit and has a massive public backlash because the majority of people dislike it and distrust it. Companies have to force their employees to use it. It can only exist because of the massive amount of free knowledge it feeds on. It does not seem inevitable at all. This is the most forced-upon-us technology in history. It's only "inevitable" in the sense that it's extremely exciting to the greedy and lazy.

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Post by KaiserPro »

boelboel wrote: post #92
KaiserPro wrote: post #60

> I can’t tell if Zuckerberg is dimwitted or just evil. The problem during the first era of the AI boom (circa 2023) was indeed that Meta was too slow to identify the metaverse flub. Former meta wanker here. Its both. but also its the structure around Zuckerberg that makes it worse. First Zuckerberg only cares about tech, he doesn't care about product. he loves research, and he loves new things that can be done with…

So just bad governance and B-stocks giving zuck control forever meaning nothing will change? Great

I mean the funding will dry up, and it'll go the way of yahoo.

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Post by flohofwoe »

goldenarm wrote: post #31
vladmk wrote: post #20

Seems like a lot of CEOs overestimated the speed of AI, but also it is inevitable.

Is AGI really inevitable ? Claiming something is inevitable is a great way to disarm critical thinking.

About as 'inevitable' as fusion power, virtual reality and flying cars I'd say. The actual technological revolutions are usually less 'obvious'.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Post by Planktonne »

postalrat wrote: post #69
goldenarm wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is AGI really inevitable ? Claiming something is inevitable is a great way to disarm critical thinking.

Give your arguments for it not being inevitable if you question it.

There is no reason to believe that it is inevitable.
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