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Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

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"I can’t tell if Zuckerberg is dimwitted or just evil."

I'll go with both... I think the guy made some real moves early on, but it's been a while since whatsapp and instagram. And since then, if the tales in Careless People are to be believed, so much smoke has been blown up his digestive endpoint that he's mostly smoke now.

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#73

The title is a weird. Ineffective? At doing what? This is an interesting quote from Zuckerberg: > trajectory of the agentic development over at least the last four months hasn’t really accelerated in the way that we expected Combine that with the other theories about Meta management in the article, I think we have the answer to is Zuckerberg a "dimwitted or just evil". It's probably the former. He can't plan four mon…

> Had Meta stock not been structured the way it is, I would like to think that the board had replaced Zuckerberg as CEO.

He saw that coming and slyly prevented it. He cannot be as dimwitted as you suggest.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

#74

The title is a weird. Ineffective? At doing what? This is an interesting quote from Zuckerberg: > trajectory of the agentic development over at least the last four months hasn’t really accelerated in the way that we expected Combine that with the other theories about Meta management in the article, I think we have the answer to is Zuckerberg a "dimwitted or just evil". It's probably the former. He can't plan four mon…

Zuckerberg was barely adult when he started Facebook. And he probably bumped into a few older guys who thought they knew better than him, and history proved them wrong. He likely developed some irrational belief that clever and young beats anything else, and saw an echo of his own bravado in Alexandr Wang. Turns out his heuristics were not calibrated properly.

Didn’t he famously trash folks over 30 years back? He has really done nothing innovative outside of ads.

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#75

Very shallow wrapper around the reuters piece ( https://www.reuters.com/business/zuckerberg-says-ai-agent-de... ), I dont think author adds any tangible value

in fact i’d say it’s a rather poor wrapper and sensationalizes far beyond what reuters actually reported. e.g. the unsupported claim that Zuckerberg somehow put Alex Wang “in charge of the entire company.”

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#76

I wonder when (if ever) the companies realize that demoralizing your workforce (and destroying that sector of the job market) doesn't have only advantages. I know plenty of people that reacted with the desired fear, putting in long hours to avoid layoffs, willingness to accept lower pay because the job market sucks, etc. - but I think there are also plenty of the the mythical 10x engineers that just checked out, stop…

Never — remember, these people believe 3 things:

1) empathy is a weakness

2) introspection is a waste of time

3) move fast and break things

The only introspection will be along the lines of “we should have moved faster and broken more things”; because of (1) and (2), it can’t progress to the level of “maybe we were completely wrong in a fundamental sense”, because they just don’t perceive human minds outside of their own (they really do view us as NPCs).

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zuckerberg got enthroned when he was like 22 and has been primarily interacting with people who want something with him, while not having any wants himself, since then. He's not necessarily dimwitted but it would take an absolutely amazing person to understand the 8 layers below him without having lived any of them. Of course he can't transcend Meta into something beyond what it's become.

Being fabulously wealthy his whole adult life he doesn’t know what it’s like to struggle to make rent, or have to take your kids out of school and leave the country in 60 days. Those are things that happen to plebs far away and far beneath his concern.

Honestly if a meta employee, esp software dev is having to struggle to make rent or have no emergency savings, its actually on the employee. They are not making burgerking salaries to have to live paycheck to paycheck unless they make poor housing and cars and vacation choices.

The visa issue guys should play safe, stick to stabler companies, more reward isnt without more risk

I get that whats happening at meta is wrong, but please stay away from these excuses as to why thats wrong, these aren’t for those employees

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

#78

"I can’t tell if Zuckerberg is dimwitted or just evil." I'll go with both... I think the guy made some real moves early on, but it's been a while since whatsapp and instagram. And since then, if the tales in Careless People are to be believed, so much smoke has been blown up his digestive endpoint that he's mostly smoke now.

His most innovative move was acquisition

Re: Zuckerberg 'Admits' Meta's Layoffs Were Ineffective

#80
post #20

Seems like a lot of CEOs overestimated the speed of AI, but also it is inevitable.

Remember, the internet was born and touted to be the greatest technology invention in human kind before the bubbled popped but didn't die. It evolved into something else while other technology caught up before it became what it is now. (I'm strictly talking about the techy things it can do, and definitely not how content is now pretty much only from a handful of major social sites.) I'm getting the same vibes from whatever AI is now. Your inevitable part might not be wrong, but it really feels like we might have to get a bubble popping and a restart because the hype is way out ahead of where the tech actually is very similar to web1.0. But what do I know?
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