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Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Post by llm_nerd »

johnathan101 wrote: post #18

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Becoming? We've moved entirely in the opposite direction.

When these tools first appeared the overwhelming conversation was about the risk of letting a remote tool siphon your code and intellectual property (where eventually they're going to add that to their training). Now everyone is using them, and that fear seems to have dissolved. Every corporation is sprinkled with Claude Code, Antigravity, Copilot, Codex, and so on. Even the long fear-mongered Chinese providers are being heavily used in many spaces.

In this case this is a PR battle between two firms, and it isn't much more. And Alibaba isn't worried about the "proprietary code" (the truth is that there is incredibly little interest in most orgs code), but that the tool is a backdoor, or at least that is the claim.

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Post by youre-wrong3 »

eunos wrote: post #12

What Claude Code did is absolutely mindboggling tho, if Chinese harness did that probably POTUS would lose sleep.

Maybe if they didn’t farm all the data from Claude to train their own trash models. Anthropic wouldn’t feel the need to do it.

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Post by surgical_fire »

feverzsj wrote: post #17

Considering their massive distillation, if US companies stop publishing new models to the public, would China still be able to develop new open weight models?

Probably yes.

More than a year ago, when Anthropic and OpenAI started to hide the reasoning bits from the output, a lot of people here on HN predicted that Chinese models days were numbered.

Fast forward to today, and models such as DeepSeek and MiMo are nothing short of excellent. I haven't used GLM or Qwen but heard very good things about them as well.

This "massive distillation" sounds a lot like anxiety about how companies from outside the US can develop very good models themselves.

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Post by vrganj »

youre-wrong3 wrote: post #35
eunos wrote: post #12

What Claude Code did is absolutely mindboggling tho, if Chinese harness did that probably POTUS would lose sleep.

Maybe if they didn’t farm all the data from Claude to train their own trash models. Anthropic wouldn’t feel the need to do it.

Anthropic stole the entire internet. Excuse my language, but they can fuck right off.

Re: Alibaba to ban Claude Code in workplace over alleged backdoor risks, source says

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Post by feverzsj »

exe34 wrote: post #36
HlessClaudesman wrote: post #25

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As long as they're paying for the tokens, there's no attack . Otherwise you have to call training on copyrighted material theft.

They are not paying for most tokens. The actual users in China do. All they need is the logs.
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