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Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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Is climbing over something that happens? For passing by, that says some about the danger of the hobby and much more about the effort of getting the body back. There's lots of common activities where you might pass by a spot someone died while doing it. Notably, driving a car nearly guarantees it.

There aren't any common activities where visible corpses serve to remind you that around 1% of participants don't make it back

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Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is climbing over something that happens? For passing by, that says some about the danger of the hobby and much more about the effort of getting the body back. There's lots of common activities where you might pass by a spot someone died while doing it. Notably, driving a car nearly guarantees it.

There's a pretty stark difference been "someone died in this spot" and them still being there for you to see. Most people don't react nearly as viscerally to hearing that someone died as they do to literally seeing a corpse.

Yeah, that's my point. That it's about the [lack of] burial rather than the actual death.

You do often see flowers put at the site of a death.

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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If you are averse to the Daily Mail, you can try this article instead: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/22/mt-everest-gre...

I thought the Guardian might decide not to show a photo of a corpse of someone probably with living friends and close relatives. Nope, they do it too, like the Daily Mail, but with a big yellow GUI control to reveal it, like a weird macabre vintage "multimedia". > Use the slider below to show a picture of the body of the climber known as Green Boots where it lies on Mount Everest. Some readers may find the image dist…

> Nope, they do it too, like the Daily Mail, but with a big yellow GUI control to reveal it, like a weird macabre vintage "multimedia".

What a weird description. You make the content warning sound like it's a bad thing. Slider versus button hardly matters.

> I thought the Guardian might decide not to show a photo of a corpse of someone probably with living friends and close relatives.

You can't see anything but his clothes and this happened decades ago. A hidden by default photo isn't going to hurt those people. Maybe we could argue the article and attention itself could be distressing and shouldn't exist, but I think the news value wins out there.

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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post #41

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Aren't there only a dozen or so mountains above 8000 m? Can you really do that without supplementary oxygen? Amazing.

14 of them. The first person to climb them all did so without supplemental oxygen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Messner

Ok. This is the most interesting man in the world. Literally.

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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I can’t imagine having a hobby that involves passing by, and in some cases climbing over, the exposed remains of others who died doing that same activity.

As a firefighter/EMT I occasionally have to deal with death, and I will even put myself in somewhat dangerous situations (that I've been trained for, and for which I have appropriate PPE) if there's a chance I can save a life. But putting myself in a situation where the likelihood of dying is quite high for no reason other than to say I did it? No thanks. Nevertheless I'm glad the family of Mr. Morup is no longer won…

I mean you do firefighting because you like something about it, maybe the feeling of doing something good. So it should be understandable doing something dangerous for some good internal feeling. Your driving feel good feeling is just different from theirs. The fact you dismissed it to just be "to say they did it" doesn't mean that's how they feel about it. There's ways to be dismissive about being a firefighter too, but they aren't fair.

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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If you are averse to the Daily Mail, you can try this article instead: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/22/mt-everest-gre...

I thought the Guardian might decide not to show a photo of a corpse of someone probably with living friends and close relatives. Nope, they do it too, like the Daily Mail, but with a big yellow GUI control to reveal it, like a weird macabre vintage "multimedia". > Use the slider below to show a picture of the body of the climber known as Green Boots where it lies on Mount Everest. Some readers may find the image dist…

If poor Green Boots was staring up at the camera, empty eye sockets and all, I'd understand this. But there is nothing distressing in the image; the out-of-focus fuzziness makes the photo seem if anything substantially more macabre than it actually is.

Given Green Boots' fame, it was interesting to see what the actual scene climbers experience was. So I think the inclusion of the photo was justified, in these unusual circumstances.

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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I can’t imagine having a hobby that involves passing by, and in some cases climbing over, the exposed remains of others who died doing that same activity.

Back in the 90s, I went to see an IMAX film about climbing Everest and at the beginning, I was thinking, “I could do this,” but as it continued my view turned into, “I will never do this. This is insane.” What’s really scary now is that it’s turned into something where people have to literally stand in line to reach the summit.

With today tech - cameras, drones - the tragedy would unfold like a reality TV.

Several months ago a woman broke her leg and stuck as a result at 6800m on Pobeda Peak in Russia and died in several days while the whole country was watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbr02F36YdQ

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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If you are averse to the Daily Mail, you can try this article instead: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/22/mt-everest-gre...

I thought the Guardian might decide not to show a photo of a corpse of someone probably with living friends and close relatives. Nope, they do it too, like the Daily Mail, but with a big yellow GUI control to reveal it, like a weird macabre vintage "multimedia". > Use the slider below to show a picture of the body of the climber known as Green Boots where it lies on Mount Everest. Some readers may find the image dist…

I don't understand why we should not show photos of dead people, esp. famous ones like is the case here? And his face isn't even visible? What's the harm?

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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I can’t imagine having a hobby that involves passing by, and in some cases climbing over, the exposed remains of others who died doing that same activity.

Back in the 90s, I went to see an IMAX film about climbing Everest and at the beginning, I was thinking, “I could do this,” but as it continued my view turned into, “I will never do this. This is insane.” What’s really scary now is that it’s turned into something where people have to literally stand in line to reach the summit.

I could absolutely not do this, but "Into Thin Air" (which mentions Green Boots many times) is a great book. Highly recommended.

Re: Mystery identity of 'Green Boots' climber is finally solved after DNA test

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a firefighter/EMT I occasionally have to deal with death, and I will even put myself in somewhat dangerous situations (that I've been trained for, and for which I have appropriate PPE) if there's a chance I can save a life. But putting myself in a situation where the likelihood of dying is quite high for no reason other than to say I did it? No thanks. Nevertheless I'm glad the family of Mr. Morup is no longer won…

I mean you do firefighting because you like something about it, maybe the feeling of doing something good. So it should be understandable doing something dangerous for some good internal feeling. Your driving feel good feeling is just different from theirs. The fact you dismissed it to just be "to say they did it" doesn't mean that's how they feel about it. There's ways to be dismissive about being a firefighter too,…

"The fact you dismissed it to just be "to say they did it" doesn't mean that's how they feel about it"

But they don't do it for other people. They do it, to say they did it. To overcome the challenge, to do what they are good at.

The most other people get out of climbing stories is being entertained (or inspired).

The most people get out of firefighters work is having their lives saved.

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