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CarPlay Is Additive

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by dhosek »

firesteelrain wrote: post #76
appden wrote: post #25

I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem, and I’ve had Teslas for 8 years and we currently also have car that supports CarPlay. The CarPlay interface is overall far inferior, especially with navigation. First of all, searching for destinations is terrible on CarPlay compared to Tesla! Even worse, Apple didn’t even add multi-touch support to CarPlay until iOS 26, and the vast majority of cars (including ours) don’t s…

You can control music and still navigate while in CarPlay. I do it all the time.

When I first started using CarPlay, the screen that has the music and map showing simultaneously was not obvious and it wasn’t until well into my third long trip with CarPlay that I finally discovered it. I had thought the only display options were app full screen and app list. I think there was a change sometime in the last 3 years that made that the default starting display (or maybe I’m just a little less dumb now).

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Post by jhhh »

monkpit wrote: post #144
frollogaston wrote: post #96

I've never seen CarPlay work properly. 2026 and they still can't make a car play music without jittering like a CD. Every car brand I've rented, every iPhone I've owned, gotta turn that junk off every time.

(n=1)

Just like the article and every other opinion in this thread...

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by vincefutr23 »

faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

How could you say something so brave yet so true

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by MBCook »

rootusrootus wrote: post #60
yostrovs wrote: post #30

There are a bunch of CarPlay devices on Amazon, for example, with all kinds of screens, designed for Tesla and other cars that don't support it, that cost about $200 for a nice one. Why not just buy one of those and who cares if it's natively supported?

In most cases it puts the CarPlay screen in a more difficult to reach location than the OE screen. The one that interests me now is the one that selectively takes over the Tesla screen.

Plus it’s not going to integrate with your steering wheel controls, navigation system, or anything else.

Those are a great solution for a car that doesn’t have an infotainment screen.

But Teslas, Rivians, and GMs all do. So why should anyone have to do that?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by simondotau »

teach wrote: post #167
simondotau wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I find the feeling of air blowing on me, no matter how pleasant initially, to quickly become grating. In most cars I adjust the air to blow where I am not, and compensate with a notch higher fan speed. Having the ability for the air stream continually moving is more valuable to me than constantly moving it by hand. Being able to pre-cool the car before entering it is more valuable to me than sitting in a h…

Cars have had remote start with the ability to cool down (or warm up) the car before getting into them for decades before the Tesla was ever invented.

Yes I know, one of my cars has this. My comment had nothing to do with Tesla. I'm only speaking in principle.

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Post by alex0015 »

It's a strange feeling reading these comments because not only have I never used carplay or android auto, I don't think I've ever noticed anyone else using it in a car someone's driven me in. Everyone I know just has their phone in a dash mount. I don't think it's that small a sample size either! I drive a 2014 Accord and it auto connects to my android with Bluetooth when I turn on the car. It's hard to really imagine the experience of maps or music being improved by seeing it on my dashboard screen compared to right next to it on the phone.

I imagine everyone who is fully involved with the carplay ecosystem feels equally as strongly in the other direction and has for a long time.

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Post by MBCook »

al_borland wrote: post #152
october8140 wrote: post #38

CarPlay is bad for the car manufacturer and is far worse than the modern car software. People who complain about loosing CarPlay are not using the new software but reacting in fear thinking the old car software will come back. The author acts like manufacturers get CarPlay for free when it has a high cost, high constraints, and gives over most or all of the dash over to another company.

> gives over most or all of the dash over to another company. This was covered in the article, that’s just CarPlay Ultra, which is still fairly new and hardly any companies have implemented it. That’s not what’s being asked for. > fear thinking the old car software will come back. Why would this not be a concern? Condition forces higher quality. If these car companies are competing against Apple and Google, they need…

> This was covered in the article, that’s just CarPlay Ultra

And Apple doesn’t just take it over. It requires a per-model design package the OEM makes with Apple’s help. So they can keep all their logos and design elements they care about.

They still don’t do it, as you pointed out. But it’s not like using an AppleTV to avoid the terrible built in smart TV interface. The OEM is still there.

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Post by MBCook »

frollogaston wrote: post #96

I've never seen CarPlay work properly. 2026 and they still can't make a car play music without jittering like a CD. Every car brand I've rented, every iPhone I've owned, gotta turn that junk off every time.

That’s very odd. I’ve used my phones with 3 different cars regularly using CarPlay every single time I drive for literally a decade without ever experiencing that.

Plus various rental cars!

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by sitharus »

appden wrote: post #25

I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem, and I’ve had Teslas for 8 years and we currently also have car that supports CarPlay. The CarPlay interface is overall far inferior, especially with navigation. First of all, searching for destinations is terrible on CarPlay compared to Tesla! Even worse, Apple didn’t even add multi-touch support to CarPlay until iOS 26, and the vast majority of cars (including ours) don’t s…

I have a Polestar 2, 2022 model even so it's not fresh off the lot.

CarPlay navigation shows on the instrument cluster. The speed, state of charge, etc all move to the side so the map is right in the middle for quick viewing. Then the infotainment screen can show music or the tiled music/navigation view that CarPlay supports.

Basic music controls are on the steering wheel of course, readily accessible.

The lack of multitouch is slightly annoying, but it's not something I ever use. If I ever can't see what I need on the navigation I simply look outside for the road signs, which still exist.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by MBCook »

numpad0 wrote: post #53
rogerrogerr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Your own quote literally does not frame the center screen as "the car": > that does take over every screen of the car.

The author clearly thinks that the dash and and the nav are connected to the same thing in the back, when in reality the nav is a self contained unit that runs on the power from the car. That only happens when people frame the nav as the car.

Casey is one of three hosts on an Apple focused podcast. They’ve discussed CarPlay Ultra numerous times. He’s discussed watching the WWDC session where how it works and gets themed was first explained.

I promise, he knows exactly what it is.

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