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Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#51

Just to bounce ideas/brainstorm. The issue is why would people come to this site to click 'I'd use this' or 'I support this'. (Ideas will flow in no problem, they're a dime a dozen.) So we need to provide feedbackers with incentive. 1. Reward them? Oops…nothing to stop them going around and supporting them everything and game the reward system. 2. Reward them based on their choices (and limit their votes)? Nope…these…

Awesome feedback. And great/clear thinking. Thank you.

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#52
post #34

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I don't think this approach is appropriate for the vast majority of entrepreneurs. Mr. Jobs was a unique character with a perspective on the world that few others (appear to) share. It seems that entrepreneurs these days are concerned with "building something awesome (to also make money)", and that's not what Steve Jobs did.

> I don't think this approach is appropriate for the vast majority of entrepreneurs. Only the successful ones. It's one thing to create a product that answers an existing need (and that may already have competition). It's quite another to create a product that people don't realize they need until they see it. The classic example is the personal computer. Steve Wozniak tried and failed to interest HP (his employer at…

I don't know if I agree that your Woz example is the best one...it's one thing to not be able to convince management, it's another not to be able to convince the average Joe.

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#53
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I for one would NOT use this service. There is a lot of mistrust in this industry, and no one wants to potentially give away an idea for the sake of third party market analysis that isn't that well known or confidential.

Point taken, and we do appreciate the feedback. The same can be said for KickStarter/Indiegogog/Everyone else. We're trying to build the same model, but hoping (and assuming) that people are quicker to give their interest, and sign up as an early adopter for an idea if its built, than to open up their wallets to new ideas. As far as giving away their idea, we're definitely going to try to do what we can to protect th…

What kind of legal side can you guarantee to anyone ? Would this work overseas ? Also, ideas are just ideas until someone actually creates it.

Not to piss on your parade, but you can't protect anything.

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#54
post #25

I for one would NOT use this service. There is a lot of mistrust in this industry, and no one wants to potentially give away an idea for the sake of third party market analysis that isn't that well known or confidential.

Point taken, and we do appreciate the feedback. The same can be said for KickStarter/Indiegogog/Everyone else. We're trying to build the same model, but hoping (and assuming) that people are quicker to give their interest, and sign up as an early adopter for an idea if its built, than to open up their wallets to new ideas. As far as giving away their idea, we're definitely going to try to do what we can to protect th…

With Kickstarter, though, the "upvoters" get actual returns from their votes (the "vote" being money and "returns" being gifts)

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

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post #52
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think this approach is appropriate for the vast majority of entrepreneurs. Only the successful ones. It's one thing to create a product that answers an existing need (and that may already have competition). It's quite another to create a product that people don't realize they need until they see it. The classic example is the personal computer. Steve Wozniak tried and failed to interest HP (his employer at…

I don't know if I agree that your Woz example is the best one...it's one thing to not be able to convince management, it's another not to be able to convince the average Joe.

> ... it's one thing to not be able to convince management, it's another not to be able to convince the average Joe.

I agree with your point, but Woz and Jobs convinced both -- they convinced both financial backers and the public. I'm just saying it's possible, and such stories often accompany noteworthy technological breakthroughs.

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this approach is appropriate for the vast majority of entrepreneurs. Mr. Jobs was a unique character with a perspective on the world that few others (appear to) share. It seems that entrepreneurs these days are concerned with "building something awesome (to also make money)", and that's not what Steve Jobs did.

"unique character with a perspective on the world that few others (appear to) share" Thats called "being a great entrepreneur". And yes I agree, few people share.

Exactly. So suggesting to all entrepreneurs that their product is possibly failing because they haven't convinced people why they want it yet, is a bad idea.

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#57
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When one has a multitude waiting eagerly for pronouncements, then, of course, solving the problem of showing may be left as an exercise for the reader.

I don't understand this often repeated argument. Apple didn't suddenly appear with a million customers/fans, they started from zero.

I'm talking about the timeframe in which someone would use Jobs as an example, not his days with Woz.

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#58
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When one has a multitude waiting eagerly for pronouncements, then, of course, solving the problem of showing may be left as an exercise for the reader.

The thing is, he didn't when the iPod came out. There were a million other MP3 players; the market was well saturated and everyone had their favorite which was not an apple product. Nobody was waiting in line.

"People trust the Apple brand...iMac, iBook, iPod, " - Steve Jobs introduces the iPod at the 2001 Music Event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0SVBCJqLs

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#59
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Looks pretty cool, but why wouldn't I just post my idea to KickStarter?

I think your missing the point of the web site. It could be used to find out if an idea is worth persuing and if it is, you could then go to kickstarter... that's how I see it.

Neat. I'm going to launch a site where you post an idea to see if it's worth posting it to LaunchSky to see if it's worth posting to Kickstarter...

Seriously, though, I don't see how that's not already handled on Kickstarter. If there's not enough interest in your idea it won't reach its funding goal. What's the point of a pre-screening step?

Re: Stop building apps no one wants

#60
Interesting approach. Regarding the idea that users would need something to keep coming back to the site to approve an idea,as said previously, offering a reward might be the best solution, but, to prevent them going around and voting on everything, why not give the power of giving rewards to the owner of the idea?
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