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CarPlay Is Additive

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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What makes you think they would care? If they cared they wouldn’t have done it in the first place.

They will care of sales slump and the feedback they are getting is all asking for CarPlay/Android Auto. Even Tesla said they started working on CarPlay support when their sales started to suffer for unrelated reasons.

You said “let them know after you already bought it” - again, why would they care?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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post #24

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Yep. Subscriptions and incentives. Every car I have purchased has satellite radio factory installed. And each time SiriusXM will not shut up about trying to get me to sign up. Over and over. It takes years before they give up. I don’t want it. So why is it in the car? Because they pay Ford and Honda and everyone else to put it there. Why did they both have Spotify? And iHeartRadio? Who even uses that? All sorts of ot…

They want my money. After the car payment I don't have money leftover for another subscription. Use my phone subscription, that is what I'm paying for for.

That’s one of the things that’s always seemed odd to me. I’m more likely to use some service on the car that you get a kick back for and can spy on if I can use my cell phone data plan.

If you try to put a gate in front of it of a $25/mo car data plan, forget it.

It’s 4G? Wow. My phone is only 5G. It’s a hotspot? So is my phone. And I’m the only one here anyway. I get updates to your maps? I don’t like your maps.

It’s like they’re trying to sell flavoring to make dirty water taste better, without ever stopping to think most people don’t like dirty water.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#163
Quite interesting, particularly with statistics shared in comments. Personally I hate CarPlay because of it's limitations - oh you can't respond to messages, oh you can't watch videos and sorts. Much easier to have a tablet there free of these "safety" limitations.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#164
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They want software subscription income. It's as simple as that.

And your data. Auto makers love selling user data.

TBF for a lot of stuff they could probably just monitor the audio system to fingerprint things the way TVs do these days and sell that data even if you use android auto or CarPlay.

But they certainly get a lot more if you use their maps and entertainment apps.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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post #5

> Let me help you, [Rivian Chief Software Officer] Wassym Casey Liss, let me help you : Apple and Google are monopolies. You are boot licking an invasive species trillion dollar company. These two megacorps are trying to put their greedy tendrils into the automotive industry and extract even more money from an industry that is not healthy and very difficult to succeed at. It's high time the governments of the world t…

> Cars should be able to interface with any phone without having to subjugate themselves to Google and Apple. Because this is a perverted inversion of control.

Bluetooth?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#167
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I have a boring Mercedes mid-size SUV. Carplay works. I can skip/repeat tracks using the standard control on the steering wheel; the instrument cluster shows the current track the same way it's done with connected phones forever. On the center console screen, we use the Carplay view with 3 splits - one for Spotify, two for navigation (map & next direction). Google Maps and Apple Maps are both reliable where I drive (…

Personally I find the feeling of air blowing on me, no matter how pleasant initially, to quickly become grating. In most cars I adjust the air to blow where I am not, and compensate with a notch higher fan speed. Having the ability for the air stream continually moving is more valuable to me than constantly moving it by hand. Being able to pre-cool the car before entering it is more valuable to me than sitting in a h…

Cars have had remote start with the ability to cool down (or warm up) the car before getting into them for decades before the Tesla was ever invented.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#168

There should be a standard. (Yes I know the XKCD) Apple and Android each having their own is ridiculous and actively prevents smaller competitors(one can dream)

For what it’s worth I’ve heard they’re basically identical. It’s just some two-way data and an h264 video stream. There’s a reason basically everyone supports both. Seems to be really easy.

I don’t know whether the auto makers actually forced them to be compatible or it was a choice in Google’s part to get into cars that already had CarPlay.

But it really doesn’t seem like it’s a big hassle. Most of it is probably just certification testing to be allowed to use the names/logos.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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They will care of sales slump and the feedback they are getting is all asking for CarPlay/Android Auto. Even Tesla said they started working on CarPlay support when their sales started to suffer for unrelated reasons.

You said “let them know after you already bought it” - again, why would they care?

They do care about future sales. Not only you, but the people you’re going to tell to stay away from them because of this.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#170
post #33

I imagine the Venn Diagram of Rivian buyers and Apple users is basically a circle (or one small circle inside a much larger one), this seems like a wildly obtuse position for them to take.

Tesla was similar. There was a report years ago about how Apple parking lots were just full of the things. And yet Tesla wouldn’t play ball.
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