But not necessarily what you have in mind can be conveyed properly in words. Its better to get a prototype instead of pitching the idea.
Prototypes can be costly.
Prototypes no one wants can be costly AND devastating.
Stop building apps no one wants
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#42I for one would NOT use this service. There is a lot of mistrust in this industry, and no one wants to potentially give away an idea for the sake of third party market analysis that isn't that well known or confidential.
Point taken, and we do appreciate the feedback. The same can be said for KickStarter/Indiegogog/Everyone else. We're trying to build the same model, but hoping (and assuming) that people are quicker to give their interest, and sign up as an early adopter for an idea if its built, than to open up their wallets to new ideas. As far as giving away their idea, we're definitely going to try to do what we can to protect th…
> KickStarter/Indiegogog/Everyone else.
Don't you generally have to show something off (as in hey, look what I'm in the process of, care to join?) with those to get backing? This is just pitching an idea, right?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Built it or not" sounds good. I have ideas but don't have the time to develop them all. Just the worry that I/another user might share a game changer idea and someone else builds it before I/we do.
I tend to agree with your worry. But I think many have the attitude of "Tough shit... if someone builds your idea before you then it probably wasn't defendable anyway."
I'm more on your side of this opinion... but I doubt the majority of the world is.
You'd be really surprised the "ideas" i've seen some throw my way after making me sign an NDA.
Ironically enough, I guess I can't talk about those...
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#44Steve Jobs famously avoided asking people what they wanted, instead showing them what they wanted. His philosophy was often described as arrogant, but guess what? He was frequently right -- people often accepted his ideas about a product they couldn't imagine until he showed it to them.
I don't think this approach is appropriate for the vast majority of entrepreneurs. Mr. Jobs was a unique character with a perspective on the world that few others (appear to) share. It seems that entrepreneurs these days are concerned with "building something awesome (to also make money)", and that's not what Steve Jobs did.
"unique character with a perspective on the world that few others (appear to) share"
Thats called "being a great entrepreneur". And yes I agree, few people share.
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#45I for one would NOT use this service. There is a lot of mistrust in this industry, and no one wants to potentially give away an idea for the sake of third party market analysis that isn't that well known or confidential.
You wouldn't want to post up something like a "trade secret" on our site, that's for sure. However, living in Silicon Valley I have actually found that most people in the tech community don't have problems sharing their ideas. I like to share my ideas as often as possible, because it helps me evaluate which ones are the best, and often people offer meaningful suggestions. At the end of the day, success comes down to execution, but it's nice to have some confidence that you aren't starting down a path on false premises.
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#46interesting idea, just entered my email there,
one thing though, i tried clicking the area outside the 'pop-up' box there countless time trying to get rid of it and see whats behind it. I initially even entered my email in hope to get rid of the pop-up before realizing how stupid I was.. maybe this is intentional, but still, confusing.
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#47Just to bounce ideas/brainstorm.
The issue is why would people come to this site to click 'I'd use this' or 'I support this'. (Ideas will flow in no problem, they're a dime a dozen.)
So we need to provide feedbackers with incentive.
1. Reward them? Oops…nothing to stop them going around and supporting them everything and game the reward system.
2. Reward them based on their choices (and limit their votes)? Nope…these are just ideas. There's no way you can tell if the idea will be successful even with enough support backers. Takes much longer to develop etc.
3. Give them the option to back good ideas (put their money where their mouth is)? Nope…then it's just Kickstarter.
4. Curate the people evaluating the apps. Gather some people that have skills and well informed about their field. Tech/Design/etc. Then you'll be able to get real feedback from those who knows what they're talking about. It's not a guaranteed hit/miss but I think the result would be better than mass voting from randoms.
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#48I can't ever see myself using a service like this for fear of somebody developing my idea first. Many of the good 'apps' out there quickly generate copy-cat apps, this will just take the originators out of the loop :)
Good apps generate copy-cats, not ideas of good apps. Ideas are worthless. Everyone has them.
Everyone has ideas, and some even have the ability to execute.
We're trying to marry the two.
Full disclosure: My team needs this product. We've built apps no one wants. We don't want to to do that again. We're hoping others are in the same boat.
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#49Steve Jobs famously avoided asking people what they wanted, instead showing them what they wanted. His philosophy was often described as arrogant, but guess what? He was frequently right -- people often accepted his ideas about a product they couldn't imagine until he showed it to them.
When one has a multitude waiting eagerly for pronouncements, then, of course, solving the problem of showing may be left as an exercise for the reader.
I don't understand this often repeated argument. Apple didn't suddenly appear with a million customers/fans, they started from zero.
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#50PG, or any mods -
Why did this get downvoted? It was #2 on the front page and is suddenly gone.
Can you please let me know what happened?