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Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Llama, ik-Llama, Krasis, etc are already out. The Chinese are the open ones, with free downloads, open weights, and loads of published research. The USA with OpenAI is some of the most closed shit out there.

There's gpt-oss from OpenAI, gemma from Google, phi from Microsoft, granite from IBM, nemotron from NVIDIA, Ornith from DeepReinforce, Olmo from the Allen Institute.

Aside from that you're 100% correct.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Voting is always effective. In the worst case it communicates the magnitude of dismsissiveness while demonstrating your intention to claim agency.

In the worst case it generates symbolism; that is ultimately what you’re saying. That symbolism is akin to prayer. I am not casting prayer in a negative light, I’m simply categorising your voting concept.

Sure, but...

Visibly praying in public would be symbolic. Prayer is not symbolic; it's thought.

I'm talking about external signaling.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Voting is always effective. In the worst case it communicates the magnitude of dismsissiveness while demonstrating your intention to claim agency.

Ah yes, voting is always effective. Thank goodness people in Germany kept voting in the early 1930s. Imagine what terrible things might have happened if they hadn't.

Agreed.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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There comes a time when voting becomes silly and ineffective.

That's the kind of mindset that helps lead to that situation.

Voting isn't some vanguard against political corruption. Voting can and is easily manipulated with completely legal means.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#35

They could be more clear and more specific but I would not be surprised to see licensing for this as a means of creating yet another compliancre ceiling and quick cash for state government to pinch out of the productive elements of society (those pinching, mostly lawyers, being glorified parasites that offer nothing to productive society other than pay-to-win access to "justice" and serving as time-shared mouthpieces…

> yet another compliance ceiling and quick cash for state government to pinch out of the productive elements of society

The twist is that AI is pushing all white collar jobs further into bureaucratic work. Nobody is losing their jobs and it's not quite a revolution, but despite all odds and headlines the younger generations are actually much better educated and positioned to do the right things as they take over.

An optimistic take is that since this is the middle class we're talking about, we get more productivity and more justice as a result. The only people upset about this are grifters and charlatans whose time is up.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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I can't tell from the site or the linked twitter handles. Their core ask for every state seems to be "Please support clear safe-harbor language for lawful local AI ownership, research, model modification, open-source publication, and local execution" rather than stopping or amending any specific bill/law. One they _could_ be referring to is the California AI Transparency Act which isn't compatible with open source li…

It might just mean "please oppose the inevitable attempts to privatize AI governance". Nothing has ever been, directly or indirectly, deficit financed at this scale before. In notional or real terms, in history, by anyone. Now maybe there's an argument that it's a good investment: we are going to beggar the Treasury to buy 2CTA on CoWoS out of Taipei and DCs the size of Manhattan. I personally think we could have don…

at some point the amount of money dumped into it will either result in a total monopoly with everything local banned or an economic collapse

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#37
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Llama, ik-Llama, Krasis, etc are already out. The Chinese are the open ones, with free downloads, open weights, and loads of published research. The USA with OpenAI is some of the most closed shit out there.

There's gpt-oss from OpenAI, gemma from Google, phi from Microsoft, granite from IBM, nemotron from NVIDIA, Ornith from DeepReinforce, Olmo from the Allen Institute. Aside from that you're 100% correct.

compared to the chinese models those are all garbage. its almost as if there is a minimum effort being made just to later say "see, we werent always for the closed models, its just that the open stuff was so far behind". or maybe they think that an environment full of terrible models will push everyone harder into the closed stuff.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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They already are. Altman is basically begging the US to buy into OAI, that's just the start. Both OAI and Anthropic are going to have to go down this path or their financials will never work out. Open local models are where the enterprise will need to go for any of this to be cost feasible, but we can almost guarantee this will be a battle nobody using AI will have asked for. You can thank Dario and Sam for the dysto…

there will always be higher valuation for company inventing model+1 . no one wants to use latest_model -1 when their competiton is using latest_model.

If neither model+1 or model-1 are providing tangible value to the business does anyone really care, though? At a certain point nobody believes Chicken Little.

I get it. These models can be powerful. But will they be useful is a different question.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the worst case it generates symbolism; that is ultimately what you’re saying. That symbolism is akin to prayer. I am not casting prayer in a negative light, I’m simply categorising your voting concept.

Sure, but... Visibly praying in public would be symbolic. Prayer is not symbolic; it's thought. I'm talking about external signaling.

In the worst case the true count is never revealed and the vote is coopted.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#40

"12 acres and an LLM"

Mock it we might now, but 12 acres and (not too distant future) open weights AI models capable of driving open source robots for farm labor would be huge. No need for huge expensive purpose built tractors. Even if they’re slow you could have half a dozen running 24/7. It could provide independence for anyone with a modicum of resources.

What do you imagine the farming robots will look like? I'm betting they look like expensive purpose built tractors.
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