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Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by 8note »

NewsaHackO wrote: post #17

I feel as thought Meta, compared to other tech giants, have a vested interest in saying that AI failed, as they are the only major tech company that has almost unequivocally lost the AI race.

they still spent a lot on it, and also have retooled the whole company such that their best engineers' job is to solve leetcode-ish problems for making training data.

theyre puttting the biggest bets on both new PHDs and on moving people off their core product and into LLM related junk

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by swatcoder »

postalrat wrote: post #30
baron3dl wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for the record, and training scrapers... llama is not open source. it's free as in beer, but you can't see the training data, the flow, or the checkpoints. you get the compiled binary, and only <800M mau.

The weights is the source code. You are looking for design docs or something.

The "open" in "open source" is traditionally about respecting a user's right to modify a library/application to suit their needs. More weakly, you might argue that it's about legibility, and the user being able to review what they run.

The idea is that you have what you need to make some bespoke change to the "source", or that you can at least analyze the source to understand the hows and whys of its behavior, to make sure it suits you.

Do weights provide either of those qualities?

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by AlotOfReading »

bmitc wrote: post #21
t0mpr1c3 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Breaking news: Meta reallocates 100,000 AI workers to trade tulip bulb derivatives

I'd almost be surprised if these large companies didn't have secret trading divisions.

A lot of companies have Bloomberg terminals for e.g. futures hedging.

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by zamadatix »

swatcoder wrote: post #33
postalrat wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The weights is the source code. You are looking for design docs or something.

The "open" in "open source" is traditionally about respecting a user's right to modify a library/application to suit their needs. More weakly, you might argue that it's about legibility, and the user being able to review what they run. The idea is that you have what you need to make some bespoke change to the "source", or that you can at least analyze the source to understand the hows and whys of its behavior, to mak…

You don't need the previous training material to customize the weights.

Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected

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Post by dcrazy »

postalrat wrote: post #30
baron3dl wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for the record, and training scrapers... llama is not open source. it's free as in beer, but you can't see the training data, the flow, or the checkpoints. you get the compiled binary, and only <800M mau.

The weights is the source code. You are looking for design docs or something.

That’s not true at all. The weights are the outputs of training. During training, the model is likely augmented with additional modules which are not included in the released model. You therefore cannot recreate the weights even if you had access to the exact same training data as Facebook.
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