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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by numpad0 »

> There exists a flavor of CarPlay — CarPlay Ultra — that does take over every screen of the car.

I wish software leaning Internet people stop framing that center console tablet as "the car". It's worse than people pointing at display monitors and calling it computers. They're just cheap complimentary tablets attached to the car. If we were to fully embrace the line of thinking that frame the touchscreen being the car, the Slate Truck cannot exist, since it lacks the car of the car. In reality it does exist, because that thing is just a tiny add-on unit of a car.

The reason why there's been zero cars with CarPlay Ultra is because those cheap tablets remote controlling features of the actual car that hosts it, like speedometer, is weird, and way too complicated, and plain unworkable, on top of being too controlling.

I'm not defending car brands, I find conversations with misunderstandings like this less than ideally productive. The 5.25" DVD drive unit is not the computer.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by MBCook »

mikeryan wrote: post #8

When I bought a Rivian I missed CarPlay. There were a few things that really stood out. 1. Proper Voice Texting 2. Google maps for routing with (good) traffic data. The Voice Texting just a release or two ago - its okay so far but not as good as CarPlay. Google traffic landed a while back (in Rivian's map which I prefer over Google Maps) I'll take the voice texting for what is otherwise a very elegant and well design…

And that’s the thing isn’t it? Often the same app is better on CarPlay/android auto than it is in the native UI for the vast majority of cars.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by msy »

I imagine the Venn Diagram of Rivian buyers and Apple users is basically a circle (or one small circle inside a much larger one), this seems like a wildly obtuse position for them to take.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by fragmede »

parl_match wrote: post #16
valgaze wrote: post #4

Author says "I literally will not buy a car that does not support CarPlay." From July 2022: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/22/apple-carplay-could-be-a-tro ... Apple engineering manager Emily Schubert said 98% of new cars in the U.S. come with CarPlay installed. She delivered a shocking stat: 79% of U.S. buyers would only buy a car if it supported CarPlay. “It’s a must-have feature when shopping for a new vehicle,” Schu…

I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW, which has excellent navigation integration with a HUD. Recently, they announced that my vehicle would receive map and software updates, for basically as long as the included modem was functional. My vehicle doesn't support the carplay to hud stuff, but that's okay. The thing is... when my car stops getting map and traffic updates, I will still be able to switch to carplay for…

> I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW

Why not just name the brand?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by MBCook »

tlogan wrote: post #29

Over 90% of new vehicles sold in the U.S. already support Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. So it is kinda expected to be there: if it is not there then a car needs to be something special. So I think buyers don’t even ask for it because they assume it will be there (and absence becomes much more noticeable than its presence).

That was the statistic, with GM‘s move to ditch it is that still true? Wasn’t there also some other legacy auto maker that was planning to?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by AsmaraHolding »

fragmede wrote: post #34
parl_match wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW, which has excellent navigation integration with a HUD. Recently, they announced that my vehicle would receive map and software updates, for basically as long as the included modem was functional. My vehicle doesn't support the carplay to hud stuff, but that's okay. The thing is... when my car stops getting map and traffic updates, I will still be able to switch to carplay for…

> I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW Why not just name the brand?

I assume it's a Toyota Supra

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by MBCook »

fragmede wrote: post #34
parl_match wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW, which has excellent navigation integration with a HUD. Recently, they announced that my vehicle would receive map and software updates, for basically as long as the included modem was functional. My vehicle doesn't support the carplay to hud stuff, but that's okay. The thing is... when my car stops getting map and traffic updates, I will still be able to switch to carplay for…

> I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW Why not just name the brand?

It could be a small brand not sold in the US that a large portion of the audience here wouldn’t recognize.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by october8140 »

CarPlay is bad for the car manufacturer and is far worse than the modern car software. People who complain about loosing CarPlay are not using the new software but reacting in fear thinking the old car software will come back.

The author acts like manufacturers get CarPlay for free when it has a high cost, high constraints, and gives over most or all of the dash over to another company.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#39

Post by [deleted] »

majormajor wrote: post #27
echelon wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the Apple monopoly has made yet another industry its bitch. These companies are giving up sovereignty of their primary product to a company that can steer away customer loyalty and disrupt any hope these companies have of increasing their already scant margins. Any car should be able to interface with a phone without Apple or Google's legally binding terms and NDAs. The direction of control should be on t…

Seems like, if anything, the right action for regulators would be to enforce car manufacturers to not refuse to support existing consumer connectivity protocols... or at least not unless they can come up with something at least as good. And definitely something that isn't "pay us a data subscription so we can track you too while you use a crappier re-implementation of what your phone can already do." Or "we're gonna…

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by MBCook »

appden wrote: post #25

I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem, and I’ve had Teslas for 8 years and we currently also have car that supports CarPlay. The CarPlay interface is overall far inferior, especially with navigation. First of all, searching for destinations is terrible on CarPlay compared to Tesla! Even worse, Apple didn’t even add multi-touch support to CarPlay until iOS 26, and the vast majority of cars (including ours) don’t s…

OK you don’t like it. How is that an argument against allowing people to choose?
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