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Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by Terretta »

stogot wrote: post #55
ivanjermakov wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beware that migrating back from Immich to iCloud/Google is not something Immich cares about. There is no "download all" anywhere, best way is to go to the server and get raw files from there. https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/14365

There’s no download all in apple photos either unless they added it

And yet, the same is true for Apple photos about ease of export:

If you set the pref to keep originals locally, they're all on your drive, in original form, as well as the derived versions including caches of raw to jpeg, resolutions, and edited versions.

That said, Apple Photos does let you export even if only in cloud. Open the library, select all, and File > Export ... > Export Unmodified Originals.

It pauses for a second or two on my quarter million images, but is then happy to comply.

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by AussieWog93 »

So many comments here about missing end to end encryption, but seriously - why would anyone want this?

Lets say burglars break in and steal your homelab. Because you don't have e2ee, they can see all the photos you saved of your dead grandmother! Oh no!

Or, in the more likely scenario that something happens to your phone, the lack of e2ee means that even if you lost your keys you didn't lose the only memories that remain of your grandma - you just copy across the .jpgs to a new device.

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by BeetleB »

hamdingers wrote: post #62
BeetleB wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lessons from using self hosted image services years ago: - Upgrade breaks things. Need to restore from DB, install previous version, etc. - Need to update frequently (i.e. if I wait 2 years, the upgrade script doesn't work). - Discovering a corruption months/years later. Some data just lost by that point. - Backward incompatible changes Of course, if you need the features, by all means use it. I just want to back up…

> Lessons from using self hosted image services years ago: Alternate title: "Outdated lessons I haven't re-evaluated"

Are you saying there are never backward incompatible changes?

Are you saying there's no need to back up the underlying DB?

Are you saying I can keep an insurance running for, say, three years and it'll be trivial to upgrade after that?

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by Grombobulous »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #82

So many comments here about missing end to end encryption, but seriously - why would anyone want this? Lets say burglars break in and steal your homelab. Because you don't have e2ee, they can see all the photos you saved of your dead grandmother! Oh no! Or, in the more likely scenario that something happens to your phone, the lack of e2ee means that even if you lost your keys you didn't lose the only memories that re…

I think we can imagine a scenario where not all of our photos are non-sensitive.

I also imagine that a true E2EE architecture means you have more flexibility with cloud storage, managed hosting, and off-site backups.

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by Grombobulous »

satvikpendem wrote: post #63
Cider9986 wrote: post #26

When I was switching to GrapheneOS from iOS, I decided to self host my photos. I considered Immich, but I settled on Ente because of the encryption. Ente Photos is extremely polished and it's comparable quality to Apple photos. It's cool they keep the server open and selfhostable instead of only open clients like many e2ee projects do. I like how you can share an album and anyone can contribute to it without an accou…

Ente Auth is also the best, because it works on any device, including the one you're trying to access (maybe it defeats the purpose of 2FA but sometimes I don't care).

I use and like Ente Photos a lot but I’ve never understood the appeal of their other products.

Ente Auth and Locker both seem like limited feature subsets of solutions like 1Password.

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by tclancy »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #53
oliyoung wrote: post #41

Immich is such a no-brainer replacement for Apple Photos or Google Photos, combined with VPN like Tailscale, it's almost a drop in replacement

Beware that migrating back from Immich to iCloud/Google is not something Immich cares about. There is no "download all" anywhere, best way is to go to the server and get raw files from there. https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/14365

They’re literally on a disk drive I can physically touch. I think I can figure out a migration strategy for that.

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by AussieWog93 »

Grombobulous wrote: post #84
AussieWog93 wrote: post #82

So many comments here about missing end to end encryption, but seriously - why would anyone want this? Lets say burglars break in and steal your homelab. Because you don't have e2ee, they can see all the photos you saved of your dead grandmother! Oh no! Or, in the more likely scenario that something happens to your phone, the lack of e2ee means that even if you lost your keys you didn't lose the only memories that re…

I think we can imagine a scenario where not all of our photos are non-sensitive. I also imagine that a true E2EE architecture means you have more flexibility with cloud storage, managed hosting, and off-site backups.

I hear ya, I was being a little bit over the top. But I really do think that for every one user who would turn on e2ee and get some genuine benefit out of it, there would be a dozen that turn it on because "encryption good" and accidentally lose all their data.

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by [deleted] »

gunapologist99 wrote: post #48
psadauskas wrote: post #40

Has the ios photo sync gotten better? I've got 20k photos on my phone, and last I tried it filled up the storage on my phone with the originals, and never completed the process, even after leaving my phone open, unlocked, and the immich app running in the foreground for several days, on the same local network as the server. I know they were working on it, but haven't kept up, I just want to know if it works better no…

Likely more of an IOS issue than Immich issue. Apple doesn't care for apps that make it easier to exit iCloud.

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Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by Grombobulous »

Larrikin wrote: post #65
azuanrb wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s an Immich issue. Not OP, but I was already using Synology Photos. Synology finished syncing my library in two days, while Immich was still syncing after more than a week. I decided it wasn’t worth it after that experience.

Why are you syncing from your phone instead of your Synology then? Can't you sync from your NAS then just have pictures uploaded as you take them? iOS has a lot of restrictions compared to Android so two days really doesn't feel like a meaningful difference from a week.

I’m not an Immich or Synology user but essentially the mobile apps end up replicating your whole structure a little better, at least when I did the iCloud library to Ente import.

I could have done a data download from Apple but essentially leaving the Ente app open and choosing my albums to back up was a “set it and forget it” process.

Re: Immich 3.0

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Post by Grombobulous »

DavideNL wrote: post #4

I don't want yet another self hosted service to manage (update, backups, possible hardware failures, energy costs, ups, etc.). Unfortunately Immich is not end-to-end encrypted. If that would have be the case i'd use https://pixelunion.eu/ Seems like a great app though. So... i'm still pondering what to do :-)

If you don’t want self-hosted and you want E2EE, Ente Photos is the best solution on the market that I have found.
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