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The Egg Bandits Made a Thousand Times the Fine They Just Paid for Price Fixing

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Re: The Egg Bandits Made a Thousand Times the Fine They Just Paid for Price Fixing

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Post by JKCalhoun »

feoren wrote: post #197
JKCalhoun wrote: post #138

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Not disagreeing, but all I heard was Biden-flation (or whatever they called it) was why we needed a new President.

> all I heard was Biden-flation Listen to different sources then. It's weird to complain that when you listened to overt pathological liars, all you heard were lies.

Ha ha, I'm just voicing what the right-wing pundits were (apparently successfully) pushing.

(I've recognized them as liars since Day 1, but I only get my one vote. Apparently my sarcasm in previous comments was unrecognizable.)

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Post by gruez »

tombert wrote: post #199
gruez wrote: post #198

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> But considering that "internal investigators" are likely hired (directly or indirectly) by the CEO, are likely shareholders in the company, and so they have little incentive to fully investigate. Right, but no prosecutor is like "well the CEO had an internal investigation so we're not going to investigate"

I feel like that is exactly what happens for anything but the most serious crimes. Keep in mind, a lot of internal investigations are not reported to the public and we never hear about them. Part of the reason that they're "internal" is so that they stay internal; we only hear about ones that leak. Even for very serious crimes (e.g. sexual harassment or assault) these internal investigations end up being "sufficient"…

Right, but unless internal investigations are somehow deterring investigations by prosecutors, I don't see what the issue is. Would you rather than there's no internal investigations?

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Post by tombert »

gruez wrote: post #212
tombert wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like that is exactly what happens for anything but the most serious crimes. Keep in mind, a lot of internal investigations are not reported to the public and we never hear about them. Part of the reason that they're "internal" is so that they stay internal; we only hear about ones that leak. Even for very serious crimes (e.g. sexual harassment or assault) these internal investigations end up being "sufficient"…

Right, but unless internal investigations are somehow deterring investigations by prosecutors, I don't see what the issue is. Would you rather than there's no internal investigations?

I'd rather things like sexual assault get directly reported to the police instead of having people directly paid by the accused LARPing as investigators, yes.

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Post by uejfiweun »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #85
uejfiweun wrote: post #80

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We were stuck in the Gilded Age for decades before Roosevelt came along and started big trust-busting efforts. I expect a similar situation to play out here. We're probably in the middle of it in retrospect.

Maybe - or is this closer to the naked theft we saw out of the collapse of the Soviet Union? That's still playing out...

I think at the end of the day, we're still able to produce really effective technology and products. Like the economy is still functioning. I feel like this is different from the Soviet situation where the problems were more related to product quality and shortages and black markets.

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Post by gruez »

tombert wrote: post #213
gruez wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but unless internal investigations are somehow deterring investigations by prosecutors, I don't see what the issue is. Would you rather than there's no internal investigations?

I'd rather things like sexual assault get directly reported to the police instead of having people directly paid by the accused LARPing as investigators, yes.

You're dodging my earlier question. Do you think internal investigations are substituting for actual criminal investigations, and if so do you have evidence for it? All you're seemingly saying so far is that you don't like internal investigations at all, even if they are done when no criminal investigations would have taken place

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Post by mikestew »

sixothree wrote: post #134
mikestew wrote: post #115

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It was really John Ehrlichman who revealed the truth. Listening to the Nixon tapes, he (Nixon) spent the entirety of his days scheming against political enemies and people he simply didn't like. https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-rich... You really shouldn't need a citation for something so easily verifiable.

That’s not easily verifiable, it’s one person’s account after Ehrlichman is long dead, the interviewer having dug through “old notes” many years after the interview.

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Post by jst1fthsdys »

gruez wrote: post #97
slg wrote: post #95

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>That's their job? I mean you're the one who brought up hitmen. What's their job?

If you think that denying a specific treatment (justified or otherwise) is comparable murder for hire, then I don't think there's anything worth discussing between the two of us.

Says a lot about your morals that you think they are so far apart.

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Post by tombert »

gruez wrote: post #215
tombert wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather things like sexual assault get directly reported to the police instead of having people directly paid by the accused LARPing as investigators, yes.

You're dodging my earlier question. Do you think internal investigations are substituting for actual criminal investigations, and if so do you have evidence for it? All you're seemingly saying so far is that you don't like internal investigations at all, even if they are done when no criminal investigations would have taken place

I think that internal investigations are acting as a substitute for actual criminal investigations.

By definition if the investigations weren't made public I can't know about them, but you can look at someone like Andy Rubin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Rubin#Sexual_harassment_a...

As far as I'm aware there was never any investigation from real police for him.

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Post by krapp »

yieldcrv wrote: post #195
krapp wrote: post #194

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One of the more common reasons I've seen cited for people voting for Trump is that they blamed Biden for high egg prices. Giving people a scapegoat is always effective.

I’ve seen the opposite, where Trump is blamed despite not being inaugurated by the peak It is effective

It only seems to be effective in one direction. Trump shrugs off controversies that would have ended the careers of other politicians (which unlike the price of eggs, he's often actually responsible for.) Meanwhile Biden being the reason eggs were expensive stuck so hard it became a meme.

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Post by SlightlyLeftPad »

culi wrote: post #200
autoexec wrote: post #175

I've known about Cal-Maine's scammy practices for years. It's difficult to know which brands are associated with a group like Cal-Maine, but I did my best at one point to get a list which I still check before buying eggs. The brands I've been avoiding are: 4Grain Cage Free Egglands Best Farmhouse Eggs Land O'Lakes Fassio Egg Farms Southwest Specialty Eggs LLC Rocky Mountain Eggs Meadowcreek Foods Specialty Eggs LLC R…

Cornucopia Egg Scorecard focuses on ethical treatment of hens but is sometimes a bit more expansive than that too. A convenient list of good eggs https://www.cornucopia.org/scorecard/eggs/ All the brands you listed that I could find on their list seem to have the lowest scores.

I’ll stick with Kirkland Signature which is supplied by Wilcox. I don’t really think Costco ever raised their egg prices afaik.

Edit: it is a bit opaque but their main supply network allegedly includes Wilcox and Handsome Brook which are rated decently

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